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    Purcellville woman arrested over kids’ tardiness in school

    Loudoun County Public Schools are making headlines with their policy against excessive tardiness and absences after a Loudoun County mother was arrested and charged with three counts of contributing to the delinquency to a minor.

    Maureen Blake, 42, of Purcellville, was served a warrant on Jan. 21, informing her to appear in court on Jan. 25. She was released on a $3,000 bond the same day.

    Her children attend an unidentified western Loudoun school close to where the much-publicized Denicore family’s children attend and have been cited for excessive tardies.

    Mark and Amy Denicore appeared in court on Feb. 6 after they were summoned for their daughter Sophie’s excessive tardies to school. The Denicore’s three children have been tardy 85 times since September, but have only missed less than three hours each of school.

    Mark Denicore, a lawyer, said he could potentially lose his license to practice law if he loses the case and paying up to $3,000 in fines for his children’s tardiness. They will go to trial March 14.

    “The warrants were obtained by a Loudoun County [Attendance Officer] via a magistrate on the afternoon of Jan. 19,” Liz Mills, public information officer for Loudoun County Sheriff’s office said. “The sheriff’s office didn’t initiate the arrest and we didn’t determine probable cause. That’s up to the school.”

    The warrant was served by a Loudoun County Sheriff’s deputy and a Purcellville Police Officer.

    According to Wayde Byard, Loudoun County Schools public information officer, Loudoun County Juvenile and Domestic Relation judges have asked the school system to report excessive absences or tardies to them. The judges’ have asked for the reports from the schools for a year. But, according to Byard, the school system tries to work out constant absence and tardy problems with the parents directly before taking the next step.

    “This is not a position we want parents to be in,” Byard said.

    The schools do everything in their power to help families who encounter difficulties in getting their children to school, Byard said. But if the family isn’t receptive, the schools need to take it to the next level.

    “All we do is report to the court intake officer and from there it’s the legal system,” Byard said. “The judges ask to see all of the excessive absences of tardiness. We don’t issue summons, we don’t send out deputies. That’s up to the court to do that.”

    Byard also said that in the beginning of each year, parents sign a Student Rights and Responsibilities packet that addresses their attendance policy.

    Under the Students Rights and Responsibilities, after 15 or more consecutive absences or excessive tardies the Virginia Administrative Code requires the student be dropped from the attendance rolls. It’s then up to the principal to discipline the child.

    If any student gets a minimum of five unexcused absences, a parent or guardian is required to provide the school with documentation from a licensed physician in regards to their absence.

    According to the Student Rights and Responsibilities “a student is truant any time he or she willfully absents himself or herself from school or from any assigned class or activity. Excessive unexcused tardies may result in a truancy referral. Truancy is a serious offense that requires a stern correction action on the part of the school and the parents.”

    Comments

    So, next year don’t sign the rights and responsibilities.. Then what would happen?


    I have not followed this entire issue. But I would assume the parents had been notified before any arrest had taken place.  From what I can tell the parents, by not following the rules the rest of us follow, seem to be teaching their children that they are special and the rules don’t apply to them. Being constantly late to class is disruptive and unfair to those children that follow the rules.  Let alone the disrespect it shows the teacher.  We all have an occasional issue and are late.  This is not an occasional issue and if nothing else was getting through to the parents, which seems to be it was not, then I’m all for a more harsh action being taken.


    I see a few possible solutions, depending on the nature of the problem.  1) Truancy Officers at the expense of the county;  2) Home School / Self Paced online study at the expense of the parents;  3)impose a fine on the parents say $500 without arresting them; 4) make the child serve community service depending on age (skipping school without parental knowledge). Many angry people commenting on here don’t have real insight as to why the children are consistenly late - and - why the school system is taking so long to enforce.  But, ultimately, BOTH parties are wrong and need correcting. There’s no excuse for the tardiness AND for the slow and ineffective disciplinary action of the parents/children.


    Perhaps you should have the law changed?


    For the imbeciles that comment here and side with LCPS!

    Who is LCPS? How does LCPS care more about these kids than their own parents?

    It feels like i’m leaving in a Communist country again, when the PARTY’s business went up to BEDROOM issues.

    You, siding with LCPS should have gonne for some time and experience to live in a COMMUNIST country to understand what is going now in loudoun county.

    These two parents have proved to be successful in society. They are both lawyers.  Their kids will too.

    What were the REAL consequences of this kids being late to school?  NONE.

    THESE IDIOTS in loudoun county should deal with the real issues, not with trivial things that do not belong to county or state level.

    SHAME on LCPS!


    Did the Denicores post bond too?


    I haven’t read all the comments but my child has been late for school many times. It’s not because I am lazy or don’t care. I am a new single mom who went from being stay at home to working. My umm husband weren’t divorced and I had no money and no other family or friends to help. I had no gas money some days so I couldn’t take them and then my car starting acting up. I now have a job but still major car problems. They can’t just hop on the bus. That has to be set up and they are only set up for after school bus. Also, the line has gotten to be forever long. I live 3 miles , if that, from the school. I will get there at 7:45 and she has been late just bc of the line. So for those of you being mean, you ought to consider what is really happening. I would never tell anyone what I am going through with all the car and money issues and I’m sure they’re are a lot of people who do the same. Yet I’m judged as a flake parent bc of 1-3 minute tardies bc I try to solve it quick. Unfortunately for my wonderful neihbors. ( and in that I mean car issues). I really think true and actual truency is an issue that should definately be dealt with but a child being late consistently is not always on purpose and not jail time or record in any case.


    So what’s next?  The parent cries foul and calls in the Rutherford Institute, then gets media attention on Dateline?  That’s happened before and the case was won by LCPS.  Rights and Responsibilities for both students and parents; you sign the forms.  How about demonstrating self-respect and learn to set goals?


    To those of you defending these parents: You’re right! Why should we teach children to get to school on time? They won’t have to get to work on time someday…oh, yeah! They will! Tardiness disrupts the start of the school day and is unfair to the tardy children and their classmates. Personally, if you are getting your children to school on time or are not encouraging their attendance, you are putting your children at a severe disadvantage. Sad that the courts have to step in but if these parents are not mature enough to parent correctly someone has to step in. Those of you supporting these parents would be the same ones complaining if their child’s teacher showed up late three days per week!!! What a lazy teacher…fire them!! You can’t have it both ways!


    This is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in a long time! The court has no business in something like this! Excessive tardiness….REALLY???? I agree with Allen…I too am embarrassed to live in this county. First the decorations on the courthouse lawn and now we are dragging parents in court for “excessive tardiness”! Unreal!!


    So, why are some people defending the special snowflakes that can’t be bothered to be parents?  My parents had absolutely no trouble getting us off to school, it was just one of the things that parents did.

    The only we were ever late or gone from school was because of doctor’s appointments or physical illness.  These parents are doing their children no favors by being so irresponsible.


    Raising a generation of White trash losers


    Is it really true that the only serious cases of tardyism/truancy in the entire county are at two of the smaller, most academically successful elementary schools? Could it be that most schools are busy dealing with other issues? Or possibly some schools are more lenient about documenting every tardy when they are close calls? 

    I am surprised these parents aren’t more concerned about getting their kids to school on time since it appears that they care about their children’s education . . . but I have a feeling we’re just hearing about them because the policy is not being handled consistently throughout the county (or because they are being more vocal about it).


    By Loudoun County

    “Maybe this is LCPS’ way of lashing out at the voters.  The administration is mad that its rubber stamp School Board got voted out, so LCPS is going to be as mean an vindictive as it can.  And some thug tactics fit the bill.”

    For a nano second that though crossed my mind…don’t think it would be a good strategy if so.

    I suspect tardiness is an issue with kids(parents) and always will be..part of the public school system.

    However, it makes me wonder:

    —Why all the publicity now?? 
    —Is this a common action of LCPS but public isnt privy to?

    My only observation that gives me some pause.  My Byrd, and others express their concern about disruption it causes with school, students, etc.  But his response to employees coming in drunk to school, etc.  he expressed compassion (Crittenden teacher) for the teacher.

    Four of our children have gone through LCPS and left with wonderful experiences (us too), but our last is a different story.  I’ve noticed a shift.  There use to be a partnership feeling with teachers, parents and community.  Now there is this “us” vs. “them” mentality.  Don’t know where it is coming from, but it permeates in many of our schools.  Teachers talking about children in a not so educational way.  Teachers blogging anonymously and slamming (their) kids in awful blanket statements. 

    The one underlying statement that I have heard from educators during this shift of attitudes, is “the rich spoiled kids and their rich parents”  argument.  I don’t know if this is a non-official message being sent out to counter LCPS attempts to get funding, but it has offended many hardworking parents.  I get teachers are feeling frustrated during these economic times, but many LC households have felt that same….insurance premium increases, 10-20% pay cuts, increased taxes, etc.

    My apologies for going off topic here, but the nastiness on this blog and anything LCPS is just sad.

    My sympathy goes to minor children, who have now been outed by the arrest of their mother.  What will happen for their love of learning knowing that ‘their school arrested their mom?’  I suspect they will not want to go to school now.  Sad story all around.


    If tardiness is disrupting classes, then haul the parents of kids who chat it up in class or otherwise disrupt classrooms into court as well. I thought the argument for requiring teachers to have teaching certificates was that they were specially trained to instruct pupils on how to overcome “disruptedness.”


    As found on another thread…..if these parents can’t get their kids to school on time at this age, they don’t stand a chance when the kids are teenagers.  They better figure something out and soon.


    For Perry Mason.  For many people in Loudoun County, a simple fight is not an assault.  Crazy as it may seem, it’s not an assault if there is an excuse.  Read through this thread as well as the other one regarding tardiness and you will see that most posters refuse to take responsibility for their actions.  They think they are above the rules and are exempt from enforcement.


    candicane - actually a “simple fight” is assault.  It would not be acceptable in the workplace or anywhere else.


    Hey Excuses, watch out!!  Looks like candicane is a relative of EllaCC.  Where do they find these people??


    people need to home school their kids fr here on out,,,this isnt going to get better, its going to get worse,,,they treat students and parents like criminals nowadays,,,a simple fight is dealt with by police,,,they throw yr kids down and assault them arrest them and charge them with assault then you have to go to court and school hearings. They are now reaching into yr home and telling you youre going to jail if yr kid is late,,,they arrest kids for drawing on the desk, talking loud, burping in class, weve created a nanny state full of monsters,,,its nuts,,,we dont have to send our kids to school in these quasi prisons,,,STOP PUBLIC SCHOOLS FROM RUINING OUR KIDS! TEACH THEM AT HOME! My child changed after public school and her innocence can never be replaced.


    excuses, are you Laugh’s new alter-ego?


    EllaCC, EllaCC, EllaCC, you really are so out in the dark (and out of touch with reality). I hope you someday find the help you need.  The capital letters were nothing more than to try and drive home the point of how clueless you are (and with that…I FAILED).  Vindictive??  No.  Again, you are so far in the dark that I fear that someday you may appear in society and endanger others (if you aren’t already doing so).  You constantly make NO SENSE with your “a few minutes late” hog-wash.  How about the disruption to the rest of the class?? (Oops…better IGNORE that question!!)  That’s right…you could care less about the kids who actually show up ON TIME!!!  Your constant babbling about the LCPS is almost funny but more importantly….SAD.  PLEASE do us all a favor and GET A CLUE!! Your continued neglect that the LCPS has done way more than they should have to try to make these parents “follow the rules” shows you have a lack of common sense…more than the rest of the “normal” society.  I pray for you…you truly do need it.  Please respond as soon as you can so we can see your next “I have no clue” response.  As “Really” posted previously…“you can’t fix stupid” and you EllaCC fit that bill.  As for your mother, I don’t buy it.  The only person she would tell to go stand in a corner is YOU. PLEASE seek the help you need before you endanger anyone!!!


    Piece of Fat White Trash. Their kids will be a generation of losers.


    Pour some sugar on me, I appreciate your point. When it all boils down to it though, these are morals and values not politics.

    Back to all the negative commenters:  It is important to live by morals, understanding and kindness and that includes not defaming and judging people you do not know about circumstances of which you do not have details. It easy to sit in an ivory tower when life is going well. However, I guarantee, either your lives are now, have been or will in the future have difficulty. When that happens, you will probably appreciate a level of compassion and understanding from others and not wish it to be in the local news…and most of you will conveniently forget ripping apart another person on a Loudoun Times comment section when you are crying out for understanding. Just remember, “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”


    Loudon would definitely be GOP territory.  How is this smaller less intrusive government?  I buy doghnuts for the ladies in the office and don’t have to worry that my kids will be tardy if we are a few minutes late.


    The punishment needs to fit the crime. Ms. Blake is by no means a criminal who belongs in jail and needs to go on trial; neither are the Denicores. If the people allow this, next thing you know, the County will be tarring and feathering offenders on the courthouse lawn, while onlookers gawk. 

    People in this community because of their excess wealth and privilege seem to have little compassion for people who have struggles or are not as fortunate in their lives.  How about supporting and helping our fellow community members rather than tearing them down and acting superior?  Fact is, these kids need to get to school on time but there is a more enlightened way of making that happen.  Some of the people who comment on these blogs are just plain ugly. 

    You can get your kids to school on time? Well, good for you. Ms. Blake could not. There must be a reason. I don’t think that tearing people down and cruelty are something of which you should be proud.  That rubs off on your children much more and hurts them much longer term than if they show up at school a few minutes late because the family is experiencing an especially difficult time.


    Tardiness cost companies millions each year. Tardy kids interupt the education of other kids.  If the parent had a valid excuse, such as illness…fine.  But if the excuse was “I have too many kids” Well quit having them or pay someone to handle them for you.  Set a good example and get the kids to school on time.


    Do the math and the County Courts are worried/concerned about students being 9 minutes for 28 days?  There have been 100 days in the school year and we are concerned about 9 minutes in 28 days????  REALLY????  We have child molesters and drug dealers running the street, but lets waste EVERYONES money and time on this?  As some say “you can’t fix stupid”!


    http://www­.aljazeera­.com/progr­ammes/insi­destoryame­ricas/2012­/01/201213­1831854067­1.html
    The US has the highest prison population in the world.
    How can anyone justify this as criminal behavior?
    Unless the father is abusive and created these disorders, I don’t see how it is justifiabl­e to clog the court system with this nonsense.
    All the parents doing whatever it takes to get their kids to school deserve awards and the critics need a lesson in humanity.


    THIS is a classic example of our school administrators and government haiving TOO much say in what is done in our homes! STAND UP AND FIGHT! STOP the government from taking away our rights and freedoms! This is no ones business… and certainly not a criminal act! You would think they could spend more time and find the tuely criminal parents who are abusing their children… but no… the hard working parent gets punished. Welcome to a socialized society… keep following your leaders and this is what will happen!


    Get your lazy, white trash, trailer park butt out of bed 30 minutes earlier.


    http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestoryamericas/2012/01/20121318318540671.html
    The US has the highest prison population in the world. 
    How can anyone justify this as criminal behavior?
    Unless the father is abusive and created these disorders, I don’t see how it is justifiable to clog the court system with this nonsense.
    All the parents doing whatever it takes to get their kids to school deserve awards and the critics need a lesson in humanity.


    Excuses Excuses, EllaCC:

    I hope those aren’t the final words from either of you.  The exchange is much more interesting and entertaining than the article itself….  :)


    With all the stress at work, home, sluggish economy, falling home prices, long commutes, America ranking 23 or whatever in Education, it is just sad and crazy to see a mother getting arrested for tardiness and a father losing his license to practice law. And I cannot believe people agreeing with such serious punishments. It will eventually hurt the children more than anybody. They would be victims of bullying on top of everything that’s happening in their lives. Aren’t there more smarter ways to improve the situation? Those who are agreeing with the punishments may become victims of some other issue. Too much of law could ruin lives and relationships if there is no alternative help. Just my 2 cents. Again there wilk be many to post against my post. Thanks in advance.


    Rich kids from Waterford are late to school because their parents can’t get it together in the morning. Who the **** cares? The world has bigger problems. the have a nice home, they are provided for.


    “Excuses”:  One last note.  My retired school teacher mother would tell you to go stand in the corner until you had control over your emotions.  Tirades were never tolerated in her classroom nor at home.


    Get a life. You sound like an LCPS employee… You know, one of those people who think the rest of us are incapable or too stupid to think for ourselves. You wouldn’t know common sense if it hit you in the face.

    And does Mr. Byard really expect us to believe that LCPS had no choice in this? That the already over-burdened judges are asking for more work? This reeks of the typical heavy-handedness of Skippy and his henchmen. Now who isn’t taking responsibility for their actions?


    Dear Excuses, Seriously, you are way over the top with the capital letters and personal vindictiveness.  Your view is obviously skewed.  Arresting a parent for their child consistently being a few minutes late is over the top. If they miss a few minutes at the start of school, so what.  Again it is a matter of parents rights vs. school rules.  One should keep in mind that is the parents who fund the schools and the parents who have every right to rear their children as they see fit.  The LC “Attendance Officer” should be focused on truancy not minor tardiness. Maybe this does not make sense to you, but you should be considerate of other points of view without going off the deep end.  Relax.


    Ohh EllaCC…you REALLY do need to WAKE UP!!!  You can’t even realize what the heck you are talking about.  Sad.  You want to “put the focus back on education” but can’t even begin to realize that the kids need to be in school for that education to take place.  Duh!!  LCPS has been EXTREMELY lenient with these families as we aren’t talking about one or two tardies.  We are talking about kids who are habitually tardy.  Get it??  I didn’t think so.  And PLEASE, for all the people out there who actually do get it…PLEASE don’t make statements that make NO SENSE, “If the kids are late to school and miss out, then that’s the parents choice.”  Well, no kidding!!!  It IS the parents choice and those SAME parents DECIDED to enrol THEIR kids into the school system WITH these KNOWN requirements!!!  Don’t like the requirements??  Don’t enroll your kid into LCPS.  This isn’t rocket science!! For people to struggle with common sense issues like this is really scary.  Just so typical of people looking to blame someone, anyone, than accept responsibility for their actions.  I hope your mother who is a retired school teacher, which is admirable, did a FAR better job with her students and teaching them some common sense than she did with you.


    My only child graduated from high school long before I moved to LoCo, so I’m not familiar with the current school rules. Please forgive my ignorance of the subject. Back in the “old days,” a child was considered tardy when they failed to be in the classroom when the bell rang. Once they passed through the school doors, they were on their own time and completely responsible for themselves.  This meant that kids dawdling in the hall, the bathroom, a locker, etc, were late of their own accord. It usually had very little to do with when the parent or the buss dropped them off at the building. 

    Are these tardy children habitually late because they can’t get in the building on time to make it to class (parent) or they can’t get themselves into the classroom after Mommy drops them off with time to spare (child), possibly blaming the parent for dropping them off late?

    As I said, I’m ignorant of how schools work these days. I would appreciate clarification.


    Excuses, It is exactly the “school requirements” vs. parental “control of their own destiny” that are being called into question. Parental decisions about their own children trump the nanny state “school requirements”.  If the kids are late to school and miss out, then that’s the parents choice.  Schools should only be concerned about kids who do not show up at school, not kids who arrive a few minutes late.


    @ Wait I missed it….don’t hold your breath on people staying classy.  Too many people here are just itching to play the sympathy card for these “poor parents” and their refusal to accept responsibility for their actions.  And by “poor” I am NOT referring to any financial status.  Parents can’t do what the schools require and then the parents want to cry foul?  Hello, McFly?  Where, or how, does this pass the common sense test?  It’s doesn’t.  I see a LOT of EXCUSES on this site but very few people realizing that these parents are at fault.  It’s all nice to know fluff about other people have XX amount of kids and what they or their parents did in the past but the fact remains.  These parents control their own destiny and they have decided, by their choice, to not follow school requirements.  Now accept responsibility for your actions!!  EXCELLENT role models for their children.


    Remind me again how the wonderful people of Loudoun are blaming the Sheriff’s Office for this?  We have a duty to serve paperwork regardless of how we feel about it.  It had nothing to do with the Sheriff’s office, we did not obtain the warrant, only served it.  We do not get to decide which warrants we will or will not serve.  Stay classy Loudoun


    Excuses Excuses: Take a chill pill.  You are way too wound up.  As the parent of five kids, I obviously have some perspective on the matter.  The point is Loudoun County is way over the top calling tardiness “truancy”. Your use of the word “demand” in the context of school authority reflects your support of the militancy that is taking the focus off of educating children.  Even my parents in MA have heard this story.  My retired school teacher mother (she tought for 30 years) thought the actions taken were absurd. Chill out and put the focus back on education.


    The continuing rise of the nanny state. Butt out LCSO! This is a matter for the schools, not the sheriff or the courts.


    Both Mrs D & Mrs B should be elevated to Sainthood for their charity for others and overcoming their disability.  They even put others before their own children.  For their sacrifices, they are being persecuted.  Shame on the system!


    It WOULD ruin my day if you had a stroke.

    We all have our own opinion and mine is that while the parents are wrong for the continued tardiness, there is a better solution than making it a criminal offense. 

    Being released on a $3,000 bond is an arrest in my book and way over the top!

    Hopefully in the future LCPS will come up with a better system to deal with the continued tardiness.  I like the suggestion of a $50 fine for each child, for every unexcused tardy above 3 or 5.


    Sorry to ruin day Tina.  I’m not going to have a stroke over people’s stupidity.


    Excuses Excuses,

    You need to calm down before you have a stroke!


    Oh no!!!  Not the Mommy War!!!!  And you are going to flap your jaws about supporting people who CAN’T or WON’T get their kids to school on time??  WOW!!  You sure do know how to pick a winner don’t you?  Let me guess, you also picked the Redskins, Wizards, Capitals, and Nationals all to win national championships last year, didn’t you??  And god forbid the school DEMAND the kids show up to school ON TIME!!  What a travesty!!!  You almost got it half right though…parents DO need schools to educate their children.  What you seem to forget is that parents need to take RESPONSIBLITY for their kids.  You obviously don’t seem to care about the latter.  Go ahead and keep on supporting people who KNOWINGLY violate the rules.  What a FINE example you are setting!!


    Ms. Blake: While a significant health issue (such as cancer, diabetes, asthma, Crohn’s disease, etc.) may be an acceptable excuse for chronic tardiness, ADHD is not. Please stop saying this. My own and other ADHD teenage children might see this and use your comments as justification for hitting the snooze button one too many times.

    I agree it is hard to get ADHD kids to focus on a regular daily routine, but once you make the effort to do so, getting ready for school becomes the easiest task in their lives. My teen’s ADHD causes many issues within the home, but getting herself out of bed and to school on time is not one of them, as the comforts of a regular daily routine actually helps her better deal with her distraction issues. She even follows a list outlining the tasks she needs to complete each morning and evening.

    I am ashamed at LCPS and the Sheriff’s office for handling this situation the way they did, but was actually even more appalled at the explanations the parents used for the tardiness. Upon hearing these unacceptable excuses over and over again, I guess the school felt they had no choice but hand it over to the authorities. It is truly a shame.


    “Excuses Excuses” DOESN’T GET IT.  The Mommy War is on.  Bring it!  Go Denicores!  Parents need schools to educate their children not be so rule bound that they miss the big picture. For example, if a kid wears a winter coat in 40 degree weather in the morning, the school requires them to wear their coat when it’s 60 degrees at recess. Crazy! My mother was an elemantary school teacher who loved and taught her kids.  Too many of today’s teachers are more interested in power, control and benefits instead of loving and teaching kids.


    I won’t comment on this particular case.  There has already been enough of that.  I will comment on LCPS and its “do as I say, not as I do” practice and attitude.  When my children attended Dominion HS, one assistant principal (AP) routinely came to work late. I had a 9:00 AM meeting with her, and she did not arrive until 9:15.  The receptionist informed me the AP’s tardiness was commonplace.  What’s more, a math teacher at Dominion simply stopped coming to work.  She only showed up sporadically.  She never called a sub to cover for her. Consequently, the students were left alone and unattended for the ENTIRE class period.  The administration and staff were aware of the problem, but did nothing about it.  I said to the principal, “Do you realize how dangerous, irresponsible, and unacceptable this situation is?” He just dragged his feet on doing anything about the negligent teacher for months.  Meanwhile, the teacher still received pay for not showing up.  I am also aware of a situation where a teacher engaged in sexual relations with a student, and the administration failed to report the criminal activity to police.  When I worked as a sub, it would blow your mind the kind of abuses and negligence I regularly witnessed by LCPS staff and administrators.  During one assignment, the students quickly informed me I was the third sub they had that month since their teacher stopped coming to work.  The sub plans were two weeks old, and the students had already done all the assignments.  Thus, there was nothing left for the students to do.  It was a week-long assignment for me, and no one from LCPS provided any information or support.  So, I ended up just bringing materials from home.  I could just go on and on.  The point is LCPS has some nerve acting so holier than thou and sicking the judicial system on people.  Yes, being late is not professional or conducive to great success.  However, the criminal behavior I have witnessed taking place in LCPS schools is far more threatening and dangerous to students than truancy.


    Finally!!!  LCPS Mother is someone who GETS IT!!!  EllaCC, on the otherhand, is the one who is lacking common sense.  Parenting is a RESPONSIBILITY…and too many parents are looking for others to help lighten that burden.  THEY are the ones who need to GET REAL.


    Schools are becoming much too militant and lacking in common sense. Some parents have kids who attend early morning programs and then have to get kids to multiple schools.  The county schools are miles apart so it become logistically impossible. County adminstrators should allow for such situations.  Get real.


    If it takes charging parents with misdemeanors to get them to shape up, take responsibility, follow the same rules as everyone else, and set a good example for their children, then I’m all for it. Ms. Blake and the Denicores obviously don’t see this as an issue, but that’s because they aren’t thinking of their kids - or their children’s teachers and classmates. What’s LCPS to do? Should officials turn a blind eye? Is that really the solution? Notifying these adults of the problem hasn’t worked, so perhaps it will take a day in court or the embarrassment of being served a warrant (a little different than being arrested) to get these lazy parents to shape up and take responsibility for following the rules and raising their children to respect others (including other people’s time). If they find issue with it, pull the kids and enroll them in private school or homeschool them. Just please don’t continue allowing children to think it’s okay not to abide by the rules or take responsibility for themselves.


    Welcome to reality Tina.  BAD things happen when you can’t follow the rules.  Maybe this will be the wakeup call parents need (pun intended).


    It doesn’t matter who initiated the arrest.  It should have never happened and was wrong. 

    I’m not defending the parents!  They should be able to get their kids to school on time BUT arresting them is way over the top.


    Typical response Tina.  IF you had read the entire article, you would have seen that…“The sheriff’s office didn’t initiate the arrest and we didn’t determine probable cause. That’s up to the school.”  Obviously the school couldn’t get through to “Sleepy Suzie” so they took the next step.  And to think, all she had to do is GET HER KIDS TO SCHOOL ON TIME.  There is no one to blame but herself.


    Excuses Excuses,

    If you think arresting parents for school tardiness is logical and shows common sense then I feel very sorry for you.

    We ALL feel the parents are wrong and should have known better but arresting them is extreme.  They should have been fined by the school systems NOT arrested.


    The punishment is a bit extreme. All the county has to do is fine each incident of tardiness, then I am sure the parents will find a way to get their kids to school on time.  Simple.


    NOTHING more than excuses out there.  All you people who think this is such a travesty really are showing your ignorance.  Yes, let’s have the county turn a blind eye on parents who can’t follow a simple rule like GET YOUR KID TO SCHOOL ON TIME!!!  This is easily avoided…get them there on time and this story and the other one from Waterford go away!!  Pretty simple and a COMMON SENSE approach.  All you people who think these parents are being treated so unfairly continue to show the people of the Northern Virginia area that you really lack the ability to think logically.


    @ Maureen Blake: it’s not right that you were arrested for this. The tardiness is out of control - I don’t think you’d disagree and it needs to be resolved - but it doesn’t rise to the level that you should be taken into police custody.

    @ All you other posters BLASTING this woman - petty bullying and nothing more. Ironic that you’re the crew talking about what great parents you are - probably the same ones that tell your children how wrong it is picking on someone less fortunate or together than you, especially as part of a crowd. Way to set an example. Please….


    The punishment does not fit the crime. Tardiness is wrong. But the parents shall not face jail time.

    In singapore, using illegal drugs is punished by death. You can argue how bad drug using is and how you never used drugs in your life. But the punishment is still too harsh for the crime.


    What an awesome defense! To the judge: I have an attention deficit problem… everytime I try to get my kids ready for school, I get distracted.
    Think she’ll be late for court?


    Has anyone actually witnessed the monumental amount of time wasted during the school day?  At least 20 minutes of student time is wasted each day with mundane tasks like waiting in line and having adults yell at them.  That equates to 1 hour and 40 minutes/ week and 60 hours/year (the equivalent of almost 2 full weeks of school) but nobody’s complaining about that…


    I think the majority of people that posted here are missing the point, along with LTM. It is not a matter of parents making excuses for why they cant get their kids to school on time, parents wanting praise for all they do to get their kids to school on time or ripping LCPS for following protocol - albeit a little too late. It is more of a matter of what these children are being taught. Excessive tardiness in anything not just school shows disrespect. It is teaching these children that school, their education, teachers, and other classmates dont matter. As much as 3 minutes seems like a small amount of time it disrupts instruction and the students who were able to arrive on time. Would anyone of you be surprised if your boss fired you because you were late 30% of the time? Would you want an employee that showed up to work on time 30% of the time? I dont agree that an arrest or jail time is warranted, but where are you expecting LCPS to start with setting the precedent if not here?


    Crucified santas, arrested parents, homophobic supervisors… absurd and embarrassing.  Not the activities or publicity needed to attract new businesses and increase our commercial tax base.  Keep it up LC!


    These parents have little control over their kids and it shows. It is embarrassing that people are asking for sympathy. Shame on them!

    Get your kids to school on time and no more problems, ok?


    @Bebe: maybe YOU could get poor Ms. Blake’s kids to school on time for her.  Apparently she can’t seem to do it, and you are such a bleeding heart.


    I agree that the parents need to do a better job at getting their kids to school, but sending parents to jail and stripping them of their license to practice law seems a bit harsh. There should be a more appropriate punishment.

    And if I understand Adam Smith’s comment correctly, according to Virginia law, if your kid is tardy enough times, it’s as bad as having sex with a minor…. Is that really the case? That sounds kind of extreme to me….


    @Scott A. S.  Well now, don’t we feel special??  It’s time to stop making excuses for parent’s bad behavior.  As a SINGLE PARENT, I got my child up each and every morning, got her to school ON TIME and then got MYSELF to work on time!  Imagine that!  Maybe the mother and the kids should get themselves to bed earlier.  The world is ridden with rules. Some of which, like it or not, we must follow.  I cant imagine how many of us would be left with jobs if we simply hap-hazzardly got to work whenever we felt like it.


    Yes Maureen Blake….you are responsible for your children.  Don’t like it…homeschool them.  Other parents survive the schedule situation with the same type of disorders if not worse.  Get up early and get them out the door!


    Wow.  Do you all feel so powerful and smug, now that you stoned this lady from behind your computer screen, ANONYMOUSLY?


    This is dumb as hell that this women get’s the heat for this. When I was a student for LCPS I was late almost every day AND I missed more school than most other students… in my entire academic career. (Of course i’m sure my grades had something to do with not getting kicked out along with my friendly demeanor/personal circumstances [3.4 at the end]) but in my junior year I missed the entire month of feburary and march. LCPS is putting this woman out to burn on a sacrificial platter to set an example when there are much worse things to deal with.


    Next on the agenda…
    If your child is absent from school more than 20 times in a period, “Fat-hick” and “Loonies” will execute the parents in the school parking lots.

    Sorry teachers – no raises this year either.  Need the monies for lawyers and guns.


    OneLoudoun,

    Who do you think you are?  I’m 56 years old and was born and raised in Loudoun!!  Here is an idea..YOU MOVE!!

    YOu people make me sick.  Every single time someone voices their opinion about how their county, state or country is run…you bunch of idiots tell us to “move”. 

    It will be a cold day in hades before I let people like YOU turn this County into the NAZI state that it’s becoming!!  I will stay and continue to vote every single election until our police force uses their power to arrest real criminals.  Not parents whose children are tardy!!  What about kids that skip school and drop out and get their GEDs??  Are their parents arrested?  What’s next?  Kids you fail? 

    Again, I am ASHAMED to be in this county but I will NEVER leave.  I’ll fight for justice!!


    Great.  Thank you Hatrick & Friends for giving Loudoun the reputation as “The County That Arrests Parents.”  Has anybody bothered to consider how this could affect our property values????


    bebe— then move to another county.


    Well said Kelly!!!


    Maureen Blake,

    For what it’s worth I think the whole thing is terrible and over blown.  You should NOT have been arrested!

    However, you need to find away to get your kids to school earlier.  The distraction is not fair to the other kids.

    It’s so horrible how people are arrested for every little thing instead of old fashion common sense.

    I"M ashamed to be a resident of Loudoun COunty


    Ms. Blake,  you are making excuses.  Excuses are what you are teaching your children.  ADHD is not an excuse for why you cannot get your children to school on time.  I have a child with ADHD, I have 2 part time jobs and I am a full time student.  My husband has 2 jobs as well.  I get my son to school on time EVERY DAY, I get to school on time EVERY DAY, I get to work on time EVERY DAY, and my husband gets to work on time EVERY DAY.  So stop making excuses for your actions and stop teaching your kids that this is the correct way to live.  Step up and take responsibility for your actions and show your kids that being accountable for your actions is the right thing to do.  I support Loudoun County Public Schools 100% on this decision as well as the decision in the Denicore case.  It is extremely disruptive to both the teacher and other students to have children come into class late.  It is not fair to everyone else that your child disrupts every time they are late.  Get yourself out of bed an hour earlier and get your kids to school on time.  Loudoun County provides transportation for EVERY student that attends their schools.  You don’t need to drive your kids to school.  Get them to the bus stop on time and they will take it from there.


    WELCOME TO NAZI COUNTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Maureen Blake—Having an Attention Deficit disorder doesn’t keep you from getting a kid ready for school and arriving on time. ADHD only impacts their learning ability once they are in school. 

    You are just making excuses for being lazy.  By and alarm clock and set it so you arrive BEFORE the doors open at 7:30a. Then you’ll never have this problem again. 

    Stop the blame and address the problem. Wake up early if the kids are being slow. Everybody else can make it on time, even the other kids with ADHD, why can’t you?


    Excuses, excuses, excuses.  Take responsibilty, get your act together and be on time.


    This is absolutely ridiculous…how are these kids lives going to be with their mother being arrested and possibly going to jail??? Shameful!!!!


    Its Lincoln elementary and my three children are Ages 7 Late 11 times;  Age 8 Late 10 times, and Age 9 late 10 Times.  I and one are ADHD, another of the three children is being tested for ADHD as she shows some behavior traits of such and the third of the three was diagnosed with an unspecified mood disorder and happens to be oppositionally defiant and uncooperative at times-  albeit ALL WONDERFUL KIDS!  Two futura gifted and all outstanding students (One straight A and one near straight A)  Those are the facts—so now judge:  Was it justified to ARREST ME and charge me with a misdemeanor?


    Perhaps they need to go to a school where they actually pay kids to go to school…(Chelsea Ma)  http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1076550#.TzGWLZgf-pE


    Many of the comments on this and the Denicore article are 100% Loudoun - unsympathetic, rude, resentful, envious, snarky, uncharitable, and mean.  It is good to see the very flower of our population out in force!


    It is a misdemeaner.  That is why children grow up not respecting the law nor other people.  They have been taught to disobey the law and everything will be ok, it was not such a big deal.  It is an embarrassment for the parents, not the schools.  This may encourage other parents to make sure the children are in school, on time.


    Emily Kramer,

    Can you and the other morons please READ and COMPREHEND the ENTIRE article before you comment!! 

    They were late 29 days with one child probably sick for the other 2 (only 27).  The 85 stands for the total tardy days for the 3 combined!!

    SHEESH!


    It shows a total lack of respect for the school and the teachers…arrogance, 85 times…come on man, get yourself up and teach your kids some respect!


    Remember, they were charged because of 90 tardies, or as WTOP reports, 200 in the last 2 years. Multiply by 3 kids, that is 600 Tardies. This is not zero tolerance. These parents are wasting our resources that can be used in a more meaningful way. It is the parents called to court, not the kids! I pay Loudoun County taxes, and I am proud Loudoun has taken this stance.


    those purcellville necks need to set their rooster clocks and get up early.


    REALLY not surprised this came from Purceville….a lot of no good trash out that way.


    Actually all 3 of the kids total have been late 85 time.  1 of them 27 and 2 of them 29 each.  Not that its any better.  The mom still needs to get up and get the kids to school on time.


    Today, February 7, was the 100 day of school in Loudoun County.  This means that her kids were late almost EVERY DAY of school this year!  AND for their school overall, it isn’t 85 lateness for this family.  It is 255 tardies since they have three kids at the school.  That is 255 tardy slips the secretary has to fill out during busy mornings in the office and 255 logs in the book to record.  It is 255 times of kids walking into the room late when the teacher has already started instruction.  It is disruptive to the teacher, fellow students, and her kids.  I would assume there were warnings and repeated interactions with the school and the parents about the lateness.  Obviously, they ignored them.  It is poor parenting, poor regard for the school community and it is indeed contributing to the delinquency to a minor.  Good for LCPS for holding them accountable to the law.


    Maureen Blake and Amy Denicore need to start a support group called, “Lazy Mom’s Who Can’t Get Their Kids To School On Time”.


    I agree with the comment from Working Parents.  Bottom line - get your kids to school on time and none of this happens.  Stop wasting everyone else’s time and disrupting the class by arriving late.  The majority of kids make it school on time, you should be able to make on time too!  If that’s too hard for you, perhaps you need to look at homeschool or some other alternative.


    My wife gets our kids to school on time.  Even if they miss the bus, she gets them there and then still has time to get to work.  Even at this point the Denicore’s haven’t said that they’ve done anything wrong. Maybe it will take a large fine and threat of jail to get her butt up and out the door.


    I’m am outraged.  WHat an abuse of power!! LCPS and the LCSO should be ASHAMED!!  If the parents can’t get their kids to school on time, they should set up a fine system within the school district (you have to pay for everything else including parking so why not) or expel them and force the parents to pay for private school.  THERE IS NO REASON TO USE TAX PAYERS MONEY IN ORDER TO ARREST THEM!! Common sense!


    Or how about the parents just get their kids to school on time and ALLLLL of this could have been avoided :(


    Virginia Law § 18.2-371. Causing or encouraging acts rendering children delinquent, abused, etc.; penalty; abandoned infant.
    Any person 18 years of age or older, including the parent of any child, who (i) willfully contributes to, encourages, or causes any act, omission, or condition which renders a child delinquent, in need of services, in need of supervision, or abused or neglected as defined in § 16.1-228, or (ii) engages in consensual sexual intercourse with a child 15 or older not his spouse, child, or grandchild, shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.


    A Class 1 misdemeanor in Virginia is: Maximum 12 Months in Jail. So this mom is looking at 3/years in jail? This has got to be a joke???


    I recommend the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors cut the school budget by 5% everytime they do this.  School tardies are not criminal events.  But treating them as such is a criminal event!  I embarassed to live in this county.


    Criminalization of discipline. You put police in the schools and they need to do something so the school gives the legal system the jobs they don’t want to do…confront and discipline students and parents.


    they’ve missed a total of three hours of school each, since September. if everything else is average or above average, e.g., grades, conduct, their being tardy, in the larger scope of serious problems that occur in schools, should not be a legal matter in the courts.


    Maybe this is LCPS’ way of lashing out at the voters.  The administration is mad that its rubber stamp School Board got voted out, so LCPS is going to be as mean an vindictive as it can.  And some thug tactics fit the bill.


    LCPS strikes again!  Let’s give them a bigger budget this year.  Golly, gosh darn it they are such good stewards of our resources.

    But a few more details in the article instead of a re-hash of the previous one would be appreciated.


    This is stupid.  Sure it the parents fault that the kids are tardy.  Especially if they are younger children.  But is it really necessary to have them arrested and taken to court?  Such a waste of taxpayers money and police officers time.

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