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Redskins-themed restaurant, Hail & Hog, files Chapter 11 bankruptcy

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One Loudoun’s Redskins-themed sports bar and restaurant, Hail & Hog Kitchen and Tap, has filed for bankruptcy protection less than a year after opening its doors, according to The Wall Street Journal.

The bankruptcy filing is a result of unpaid contractor bills dating back to the restaurant’s construction, according to reports.

Hail & Hog launched in May 2016. The 12,000-square-foot, two-level restaurant includes a radio and television studio for Redskins broadcasts and a rooftop bar.

It will stay open during its Chapter 11 reorganization, part of the United States Bankruptcy Code whereby a debtor proposes a plan of reorganization to keep its business alive and pay creditors over time.

Houston-based operator G.R.E.A.T. Grille Group (G3), which owns Hail & Hog, also runs restaurants in several other states, including Ohio and Pittsburgh, along with sports-themed restaurants for the NFL's Colts and Texans.

The One Loudoun restaurant was skewered in a Washington Post dining review in September.

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I liked the Shake Shack idea myself.


I have to agree with David. No net positive to add more people/homes. The schools are over crowded. The schools are constantly changing boundry lines. It takes 30 minutes on weekday pm rush to go from Dulles Town Center to the outlet mall. Usually that is a 12 minute ride.


SEP1980, why should we build more houses?  How does it benefit the county to have more people?

You say some will move farther out and commute through Loudoun if we don’t build more housing.  True enough, but that is a tiny fraction compared to 100% of the people that will clog up the roads if we build more houses in the county.

There is no net positive to increasing the county’s population.


Most over 65 years old are not exempted from property taxes.  There is an income and net worth limit as well as a limit on the size of the property.  There is a small fraction of people exempt from property taxes. 

Growth is not governed by the number of houses Loudoun builds.  If Loudoun stops building houses then people are forced to move farther out - ever heard of drive until you qualify.  It isn’t an option to move closer in if Loudoun doesn’t allow housing.  Those individuals will still be driving into and through Loudoun to get to their jobs.  Since they will be living further out and there is no mass transit option this means even more cars on the road, worse traffic, and ZERO offsetting tax revenue to pay for it.  So life in Loudoun deteriorates or taxes go up to pay for improvements.

Everyone needs to get their head out of the sand and deal with anticipated growth in a well thought out and fiscally responsible way.  The “just don’t build crowd” should take an Econ 101 class and come back to reality.


Geary Higgins worked hard to get the Waterford Foundation, with over $6,000,000 in assets, $150.000 to “repair their finances” using TOT funds.  No bailout for these guys from our board (sarcasm)?


SEP1980, your analysis of the proffers for townhouses is spot on.  The low-ball proffers incentivize developers in a very negative way.  But, again, we see the developer influence in Loudoun.  The system was designed to help them help themselves.

But it is important to note another problem.  Loudoun exempts most retirees (65+) from property taxes.  So many, but not all, of those empty nesters are still a tax negative and, if they previously had kids in the school district, they are certainly an overall tax negative.

The best answer is no new housing at all until our infrastructure catches up with our population explosion.  Once we have free-flowing traffic, THEN let’s talk about adding new housing.


GT - Your analysis is incomplete.  First, to say people cost more in services than they put in is only partially true.  People with children cost more is services than they put in.  The “dumbbell population”, millennials without children and empty nesters are tax positive.  Housing itself is not tax negative housing that caters to families, especially large families, are tax negative.

What research shows is the both millennials and empty nesters prefer walkable more urban environments.  Our County right now is primarily built for families and it is a great place for them.  Trust me I was born and raised here and also live here with my family.  The problem is if you have a system that only attracts families fiscally it will fail because we cost more than we put in.  This leaves us with three options create the environment that diversifies the population, i.e. Attracts millennials and empty nesters, raise taxes, or let quality of life deteriorate.

The added advantage of option 1, building walkable urban places that attract millennials and empty nesters is that these are the same places that attract businesses which are also very tax positive.  In addition, if you place this density near the new metro stations you can take advantage of mass transit lowering our infrastructure costs while at the same time accommodating growth while preserving our existing suburban communities and the rural west.  This also give a place for our auburban residents to hang out and a place for the rural economy to sell goods.  It is a win all the way around.

Townhouses are not a worst in class type of housing, it is just that the proffer system incentivized them incorrectly.  In theory townhomes generate fewer school children and therefore they have a lower proffer payment.  Then problem is the proffer should be tied to square footage or bedrooms not the type of house.  The current system encourages builders to build huge townhomes - since they sell at single family home prices but have lower proffer payments.  The result is just an attached single family home which gives you the same amount of children but less money for schools. 


SEP1980, people cost more in services than they put into the system.  Townhouses are probably the worse offender because they attract young families with school-age children and are dense.

The answer to failing businesses is not to dump a bunch of houses around them to help them out.  While that will help the business owner, it is a net negative to the County.

But don’t worry about “no” to housing.  We have a projected 150,000+ units coming over the next several years.


I can understand why it is failing. In addition to the food being lack luster, some of the staff haves no idea who plays for the Redskins or any of its coaches. Case: I dined there one Sunday afternoon.  While talking to my waiter I overheard another waiter tell a customer it was against policy to change the TV channel so he could not turn on the game. It was the by week, the Redskins were not playing PROBLEM: The customer was a REDSKIN player. Not going to say who as I don’t know the name but recognized the face. (I’m not a skins fan, sorry.) Needless to say the player was visually upset, Before he could say or do anything another waiter told the 1st waiter the error of his way and changed the channel. In the end the player stayed and watched the game. To tell a Redskin player he could not watch a game at a Redskin themed establishment, policy or not, is not good for future Redskin player’s business or any other business.


Hail and Hog has a prime real estate location and the fact that it cannot capitalize on it, goes straight to the fact that it’s their business that is the problem.

Loudoun doesn’t need another sports bar with jacked up hamburger prices. Considering it’s location to the movie theater, it needs to become a pre/post movie restaurant with prices that undercut the competition at both the theater and local restaurants.

Drop the sports theme, if people want football and burgers, they’ll go to Buffalo Wild Wings.


Let’s get a Shake Shack in there and be done with it.


Loudoun can not attempt to grow the commercial tax base through retail without housing growth.  People have a limited amount of disposable income and when you add more and more retail without more people you just divide the pie up into smaller pieces.  It is hard for any retailer to make it. 

Couple this with the fact that Loudoun has a housing affordability issue and the quality of staff a restaraunt can hire is horrible resulting in poor service and food. 

In order to attract a commercial tax base Loudoun must create successful walkable mixed use areas.  In order to do this Loudoun must allow and encourage the amount and type of housing to support this type of environment. 

If Loudoun does not make the choices to support fiscally responsible growth you will see more failures, higher taxes, and lower quality of life in Loudoun.  Saying no to housing does not stop growth it only pushes it to further out jurisdictions leading to higher infrastructure costs, more traffic, and a fiscal nightmare.


I was not even aware this place existed. Huh.


One Loudoun needs more than bar/restaurants to thrive.  And, to Buffacuse3’s point, the answer is NOT more townhouses to bail out a floundering One Loudoun.


One Loudoun is so overrun with restaurants that the survivors will have to be either very unique and/or very good to survive…Hail and Hog is neither.  If Brian Voltaggio cratered there, an enhanced Applebee’s with lousy food and service has zero chance.

But, that’s ok, the townhouses over there will keep on going up…even if there is regression in the amount of commercial space.


I tried to warn Hail & Hog when I went there and saw how the place was running. I told a manager that if things didn’t improve- meaning the food and the service, they would not be there very long. The same thing happened to “Family Meal”. At Hail & Hog the food is terrible and the service is mostly bad, with untrained help and managers walking around who do not see what is going on in their restaurant. They hide when they know there is an unhappy customer seated at a table.
You can bet H&H will be closing their doors within a year, probably less unless they revamp the menu.

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