Northam | Coronavirus

Gov. Ralph Northam (D) and State Health Commissioner Norman Oliver issued a public health emergency order to reduce the spread of the new coronavirus, or COVID-19, on March 17.

Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D) announced on Tuesday that most of the commonwealth will move into the second phase of the state’s reopening plan due to the impact of COVID-19 on Friday.

Similar to the first phase, however, Richmond and northern Virginia, including Loudoun County, are being delayed.

The minimum amount of time localities have remained in phases is two weeks.

Northam said “we need more time to monitor their health metrics” after northern Virginia reopened last Friday.

Northam said Accomack County on the Eastern Shore, which has remained in “Phase Zero” for more than two weeks, underwent rigorous testing. As a result, the locality will be entering the second phase of reopening on Friday.

Under the “Phase Two” guidelines, restaurants, gyms, sports, outdoor entertainment venues and gatherings will be allowed to have up to 50 people.

Gyms and fitness centers can have indoor classes and workouts at 30 percent of their capacity, and swimming pools can open with some restrictions.

Entertainment spaces such as museums, zoos, botanical gardens and outdoor venues can reopen with some restrictions. Recreational sports are allowed with physical distancing requirements and no shared equipment. Swimming pools can be open to exercise and swim instructions.

Public and private gatherings are limited to 50 people.

Northam is also encouraging people to telework, physical distance and to wear face masks in indoor spaces.

As part of his Forward Virginia plan to reopen, Northam's staff has been monitoring the number of positive coronavirus cases and hospitalizations, hospital bed and intensive care capacity, the amount of personal protective equipment at health care facilities and testing capabilities.

Northam said the Virginia Department of Social Services will be contacting child care services to prepare for the second phase. He will provide more updates about the second phase and youth sports during Thursday’s briefing.

Loudoun County's total number of coronavirus-related deaths stands at 67. The number cases stand at 2,636 on Tuesday, according to the latest figures reported by the state. There have been 67 deaths and 165 people hospitalized.

Loudoun County's current 7-day average for percent positivity in testing has fallen to 12.8 percent.

Statewide, the number of cases on Tuesday jumped by 841 to 46,239. There have been 1,407 deaths, 4,770 hospitalizations and 328,889 tests administered.

More information about the coronavirus and how to prevent its spread can be found at CDC.gov/Coronavirus and Loudoun.gov/coronavirus.

(292) comments

js

AG you have still not provided any govt proof as I asked. News stations etc are not the proof I asked for and I did google but found no definitive proof to back up what you say about white supremists dressing like Antifa etc I want official proof and you have not given it to me you want me to look at this and that but still no definitive proof as from a state or feds You can't because there is none yet so the news stories you read are just that news stories, hear say etc and not necessarily real as you mention

amerigirl

News stations are proof, look at the links. I'm not going to make up something like that. cbsnews.com/news/twitter-fake-antifa-acount-white-supremacists-removal/ it shows a screen shot of one of the messages. If you feel better with a FOX report https://fox59.com/news/national-world/white-supremacists-pose-as-antifa-online-call-for-violence/, That is your proof, I don't know what you expect me to do, drive to visit Proud boys and get them to admit it in person. Also https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/press-play-with-madeleine-brand/la-attorney-resists-the-call-to-reopen-courts-amid-covid-19/white-supremacy-protests

js

Hmmm AG nasty as well!! I don't care to be in your life but I still would like to know where all the hate comes from it will consume you at some point

amerigirl

Don't worry. It only comes out when I read idiotic remarks on theses sights. Anger comes when I see injustice.

js

AG you assessment that the troublemakers are uber rightist where is your expertise coming from to make such a statement. Sounds like the garbage CNN has spouted without any evidence. Even NBC cannot decide whether ir rightist or leftist. Even the US govt is not sure as they only say that some demonstrators used Antifa like tactics. So please show we the official proof about whether rightist or leftist and until you are positive lets wait and see what an official inquiry had to say then place the blame. Until that time your rhetoric is nothing short of heresay

amerigirl

First, if you start slamming the media, you are more than likely pretty right yourself. Twitter shut down accounts from ult-rights that was called antifa us which told people how to dress as antifa, and to be violent. It was carried on major news stations. I don’t call inciting violence troublemaking. Such a downplay. cbsnews.com/news/twitter-fake-antifa-acount-white-supremacists-removal/ shows the tweet and has more info on them. It is on many more sites too. Yes, the govt knows about it. How come you couldn’t google it yourself instead of calling it hearsay? Instead you call it garbage and blame CNN, are you a trump mouthpiece? It may not have been on Fox since they only spout garbage and biased opinions.

js

Still no proof!!I said before where is official proof from the govt not hear say or news from any news source. BTW I did google it before my post but the onus is on you if you make a statement then back it up besides news accounts . For every one you put out I can do the same. I still don't understand why you try to belittle everyone that does not agree with you is it your hatred is so severe for Trump you cannot ever be wrong?

amerigirl

There i no onus on me. I don't see how your could have googled it and gotten nothing. But did you try the web site in the post??? Where do you think [people get their information if not for the news? They have reporters that investigate and report. It was on every major news station, not my problem if you can't find it after I already gave you a source. There's your proof. The way I act is because of the way I'm treated and it is always from trump lovers. Stay out of my personal life, and I'll stay out of yours.

Guest

I do not think it is fair to let almost the entire state go into phase 2 and exclude NOVA. The population of Loudoun county is astronomically greater than other counties throughout the state, therefore there will obviously be more cases here. I am in awe that you are opening gyms all around me EXCEPT for NOVA. I need the gym, period. I go everyday, sometimes twice a day, and to continue to hold that back from the community is wrong. My mental health, as well as many others, is dominishing due to the inability to use a gym facility. We have been staying at home for over 2 months now, people are out and about like normal, all I ask is for you to give us our gym back so we can get into the right mental state. Depression is a serious serious thing, I have dealt with it all my life and the gym is the only thing that suppresses my depression. PLEASE do not keep this from us. This post is a simple cry for you to give me a peice of my gym back, I am not here to argue, I simply need you to let NOVA open as all other counties are in our state. The population is WAY bigger here than in any other part of our state so we are going to have more cases, that should be obvious. Do not exclude us from the reopening PLEASE!!!!!

Voltaire

Guest--why can't you go walking/jogging outside for exercise? Why is the gym so important? Just a question.

Commonsense

Obviously you don’t work out at a gym. Walking or running outside isn’t the same as lifting weights etc. sure, you can do some stuff outside, but not everyone has the luxury of having a home gym or basement, or backyard.

Just open the gyms up along with other businesses. Enough with destroying our economy. Maintain social distance , masks, wash hands and sanitize areas.

If you are scared, At risk , uncomfortable, then stay home. It’s that simple & no judgement or opinion.

The rest need to get on with life. It’s going on too long.

Voltaire

LCS, no I am more of a walker. I agree with your point and appreciate the perspective.

amerigirl

It wasn't fair that NOVA and tidewater had the majority of cases either. You have to go with the cards you have been dealt. The metro was considered a hot spot when the rest of VA was meeting the metrics to open. You need water, you need food, you need air, you don't need a gym. You want one. Do some exercises at home, go jogging, I'm sorry to hear that your mental health is so fragile that a gym is the only cure, maybe talk to someone. Talk to your doctor about medicating until this is over. Most doctors are willing to do that.

Guest

Agree 100%!!!

Guest

As looting and rioting people go from state to state to riot to destroy the Nice City Area's of each state. Northam keeps NOVA shut down 1 more week that does not make any since so what he is saying is that law abiding citizens are penalized. I thought looting and destroying of public property was a criminal offence. By doing nothing it shows basically are police and government can't protect law abiding citizens. Most people in Nova have been at home for the last 2 1/2 months. And have not been to Virginia Beach. But the only people that are allowed out are rioting and looting and not worried of any curfew. And yes there are civil protesters that are not breaking any law. But you have to open NOVA after all that one more week crazy.

Borninloudoun

Yes! No sense at all!

amerigirl

Because it's not true.

amerigirl

Yes because it's not true. Granted the wording in this article is terrible but we just went from phase 0 to phase 1. Parts of VA went from phase 1 to phase 2.What he is saying is that NOVA is not going to phase 2.

FasterDarwin

What the hell are you talking about? Do you realize that the stay at home order has been lifted? People going out to protest is NOT the same as people going to restaurants, movies, and gyms. If you think we're being penalized because our COVID data and health officials are telling us to slow down, you need a brain. Northam didn't make just decisions just for the hell of it. He is surrounded by a team of experts in every field providing the best recommendation possible to keep our health and economy sustainable once we start back up. What rock did you just crawl out of that you didn't know this?

Kinder

You don't have to be so mean about it. Kindness is what we need now, not more hate filled comments. Thank you.

amerigirl

You can only take so much of people calling you names and twisting everything you say before you get a tad angry.

Guest

So what you're saying is if you agree with or like the reason, it's okay to kill old people and not flatten the curve. That's not how this works. Regulations cannot apply only to activities you don't think are important. That's not how American law works

amerigirl

American Law? Actually it is an executive order, and we have entered phase 1. In phase 1 you must wear a mask to enter an indoor business. You don't need one outside. It is not mandated that you social distance but is recommended. Most of Virginia entered Phase 2 but the Metro area had much higher number. Along with DC and parts of MD, NOVA stayed in Phase 0 when other parts of VA and MD moved to phase 1.

Patriot

Governor Coonman is a sympathizer with the KKK. Prove me wrong. He’s used the virus to try to destroy democracy in VA. He took away voter ID, he empowered the Dem supporting labor unions. He ruined our children’s schools and made them lose a part of their lives they will never recapture. He favors killing babies born alive. With his kkk and black face he should have been driven from office. If they had found something like this on Trump they would have demanded he resign. As anyone asked Coonman whether he ever was a member of or supported the kkk? Crickets. He has experts? What the same kind who said this flu was far worse than anything? Wake up people the virus is gone but Governor Coonman wants to continue to punish us so he can gain more power. Just wait until he wants to hike our taxes to pay for his extremely damaging shutdown. You re-elect the Dims then VA might be finished.

amerigirl

patriot racist, Gov Northam works closely with the NAACP, has nothing to do with the KKK. You prove it, your the one making the lying statement. It is the same abortion laws that were in place under the republicans with 2 exceptions, The width of the hallways where the procedure can be done, and no need for a sonogram

Jasmine

The problem with NOVA is that it has to be open at the same time as DC and MD. NOVA is more peaceful than DC and MD so if it were to open early that peace would be gone from the thousands of PG County and DC hoodrats coming over to VA to celebrate being open. South Carolina’s cases went up as soon as next door Georgia reopened. NOVA cases are lower than DC and PG County so as much as i dislike the governor’s decision i also dont want the good people of VA seeing a huge rise in numbers.

Guest

These idiots out protesting side by side [inches apart & no masks] are bringing it back to VA anyway. Whether you are for the protestors and rioters or not, it doesn't matter to passing the virus. We will know within 2 weeks whether the lockdown was the right thing or just an overreaction. Once a couple weeks pass, if this virus is going to spread, we will know then. Not only in the DMV but every city that has had to endure the rioting aka protests.

amerigirl

Oh please there are so many people already in Virginia that won't wear a mask it shouldn't make any difference. There were plenty of people who were wearing masks.How are you going to know if any new cases are from reopening, idiots without masks already here, or people who protested? Divine intervention?

Guest

Dc and MD hoodrats? Wow Jasmine that’s amazing that you said that. I’m from PG County and I know live in Loudoun now and I have a MBA and I own my own business here. Does that sound like a hoodrat to you? What do you do, just curious with a name like Jasmine I’m pretty sure you know exactly what hoodrats do. Don’t be rude and judge a entire city based on zip codes. PG county and Dc have very educated people that live there and They could probably teach you a thing or two, like what to say and how to say it.

amerigirl

Hoodrats? So what is your explanation of a hoodrat? I can tell you just how everyone else takes that term? How about Loudouners, are they all red necks?

amerigirl

The article is poorly written. Loudoun was in phase 0, and is moving into phase 1. It is not shut down for another week. Many of the counties in VA are moving from phase 1, started May 29 to phase 2. We are part of NOVA, which has some of the highest numbers in VA and are 1 phase behind along with Richmond and Accomack County, who also had high numbers. BTW there were many more real peaceful protesters than those rioting, but you didn't mention them.

Voltaire

Guest--law enforcement, with the assistance of the National Guard, are doing their best to protect law abiding citizens. However, when the political class decides that they want to play police chief and interfere in police operations, then the response by law enforcement is not as cohesive as one desires. An illustration is where the Arlington County Police Department was withdrawn from front line actions by the County Government even though the ACPD has mutual aid agreement with DC. That was a nice political stunt by the ACBOS Chairperson which did nothing to solve the problem of civil unrest. Looting and destruction of public property are criminal offenses. Violation of curfew is illegal as well. As to civil protesters that depends on whether they are peaceful and following lawful commands by the police. If they are not following lawful commands, then they can be arrested.

amerigirl

I don’t see much protection of law-abiding citizens, look at DC. No political class has decided that they want to be police chief, that is just wrong. They want fair treatment. Arlington Co. did the right thing when force was used to attack innocent American citizens, contract or not. I don’t know if you have noticed but most of the looter and rioters are gone, curfew has been extended, and yet there are military forces, unmarked, that are in the Capital of the US. That is an abomination. Answer this, why won’t they show where they are from? You still don’t get that the peaceful protesters and press coving the event were never given commands other than arm waves, which they followed. Please please stop defending something that never should have happened in a country as great as ours. Look at the videos and see for yourself. People who were arrested had been herded into and area where they didn’t have a way out, they were surrounded and it was not pass curfew when then started heading out. What was the point of that? Why weren’t they allowed to leave so they would have been out before curfew? You are having discussion on what should happen and how it should be handled, not what is happening and how it’s being handled. Look at what is actually happening and see if you think that is right.

Voltaire

Actually, they are for the majority of the population but that doesn't fit the narrative. Yes, the political class are trying to interfere with police operations. Arlington County's Board of Supervisors violated a valid mutual aid agreement by removing their officers. In the City of Richmond, Mayor Stoney made the Richmond Police Department apologize for the use of tear gas even though it is not certain which law enforcement organization (could be Virginia State Police or suburban counties assisting under mutual aid) did the actual firing of the cannister. That is wrong and does nothing to support law enforcement's efforts to control a riot situation. No, those are not military units, unmarked, that are in the Capital of the US. Those units are riot units from the U.S. Bureau of Prisons (BOP) here in mutual aid to control civil unrest. As the Director of BOP told the Washington Post, they did not identify themselves as they are not accustomed to do so because of the environment that normally they work in does not require it. Actually, should the situation warrant, the deployment of these assets is valid. If the situation continues, then you will see U.S. Army troops (Military Police) deployed due to the implementation of the Insurrection Act. No, I will not stop defending the actions that law enforcement are doing because, as I have said, somebody has to speak up for their side in this matter.

amerigirl

Vol, the only political class I see trying to interfere in operations is the far right and trump. Far right white nationalist, proud boys, the three percent, and Boogaloo Bois have been arrested across the nation, for rioting at the protests, and guess what, they were dressed as Antifa so it would look as if it was the far left, thing is not a soul with antifa affiliations has been arrested. It was trump that wanted all the armed forces in instead of letting the police do their job. Have you seen the latest pentagon report naming him? A follow up report by the media said “These Pentagon officials added that it was the White House, not the Defense Department, that was pushing for active military might in the streets,” continued the report. “In particular, the president has pressed aides and Pentagon officials for graphic details on the kind of armored vehicles, military units, aircraft, and even ‘tanks’ that they could potentially send to maintain order in U.S. areas rocked by protests and rioting.” He wanted to use tanks on American citizens!! Yes, some of them were military units, it has been verified by the pentagon. How nice was it to find out that the forces sent from the U.S. Bureau of Prisons (BOP) were from places like Beaumont TX where the prison system has a huge outbreak of Covid? Even they should not have been there. It was trump trying to flex his muscles while hiding in a bunker. To begin with the attack was on nonviolent protesters exercising their first amendment rights, and anyone who has taken the oath that they would have needed to take have violated that oath. Defend the law enforcement that walked away from the police line and took direct aim at reporters and press while on live TV? How abut in Seattle where they sprayed into a peaceful crowd of families with children getting pepper sprayed? You can speak up it still won’t change the atrocities that are happening

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CindyLou

oh and in case you can't read and barely write. Here are the rules "Keep it Clean. Please avoid obscene, vulgar, lewd, racist or sexually-oriented language." You must have missed the lesson in first grade on rules. Hey, I thought everyone paid taxes too....how do I get out of paying those?

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CindyLou

nothardworkingamerican, I am a racist? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Look what you just called the Governor. Your sad. You also just hurt my last feeling. NOT! Your a puffed up bully.

Simon

So glad we couldn’t have a funeral for my brother in law but kids going out to smoke weed and party perfectly ok.

Voltaire

Simon--I am very sorry to about the loss of your brother in law.

LetsBreal

It's really time to do an early recall of this joker. I think it can be done with ll the people at home because of him. From Laws governing recall in Virginia on Ballotpedia, the petition for recall must be signed by at least TEN PERCENT of the number of people who voted in the last election for the office being recalled. Imminently doable.

Code § 24.2-233 states acceptable reasons for recall when it has "material adverse effect upon the conduct of the office" include:

Neglect of duty

Misuse of office

Incompetence in the performance

LetsBreal

FYI - Northam garnered 1.4 million votes in 2017

amerigirl

and?

LetsBreal

Rounding, there were 2.6 million votes total, so 260,000 signatures to get the ball rolling.

CindyLou

Can we include the President in on code 24.2-233 or would code 666 just apply to him?

FrogEmotions

Don't worry CindyLou, we're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you.

amerigirl

Sorry most of us are laughing at people like you froggy.

Guest

Left Wing Nut Job at its finest - Four More Years - Look at Joe "Word Salad" Biden or is it Beijing Biden or is it just Senile old man Biden? Either way; this guy would run this country into a 3rd world economic country and we would be over run by thugs if the Chinese don't take us over first.

amerigirl

spoken like a true right wing nut fascist. Better see how fast trumpster polls are sinking, republicans moving away from him. He's in a deep dumpster dive .

Guest

Joe Biden isn't stupid. Joe Biden has Dementia. People who vote for Joe Biden are stupid. Joe Biden's Dementia is only going to continue to get worse as he approaches his 80th birthday, if he makes it that far.

amerigirl

Guest, the make-shift doctor has spoken. Here we have a very mentally deranged president that has had over 1,000 psychiatrist write a letter about that problem but you are worried about someone whose mind is working faster than his mouth?

LeesburgFan

LetsBreal - now this is a brilliant idea! Northam is a mild-mannered, timid, wimpy pediatrician. He is NO leader. I believe that most of the 1.4 mil who voted for him with no prior management experience of anything in his career, are simply pre-conditioned to vote for a liberal with no experience. We need some ACTUAL leadership in the Governor's house. I'm not talking Dem, Indep, or Republican.....I would just take someone who has a managerial skill set with a backbone. That's priority ONE for any Governor.

amerigirl

Simplistic, expected and stupid.

LeesburgFan

amerigirl - there you go, you can't respond intelligently so you go into name-calling mode. Actually a lot of simplistic, stupid voters don't know the difference in job responsibilities between a Governor and a State/local Representative. The job of Governor demands managerial skills. Sorry if that info was beneath your high education level.

amerigirl

If those were for the country, trump should be gone, he fits those parameters to a tee.

Guest

how do you start a gubernatorial recall in Virginia?

you file a petition in any of the circuit (county) courts in the Commonwealth

guess who closed the circuit courts?

amerigirl

Guess who closed the courts in every state where they closed, democratic or republican? It's a declared National and state emergency.

Countyrez

Obviously Northam is incapable of handling the looting and rioting in Richmond while disseminating the DATA showing significant downward trending. In the meantime, the majority of Board of Supervisors and Randall sit on their hands. Shameful!

Voltaire

Countyrez--you cannot be Northam for the actions in Richmond. Mayor Stoney should have requested the National Guard to provide support to the Richmond Police Department (RPD). He didn't. Further, Mayor Stoney made the RPD apologize for use of tear gas on "peaceful protesters". Northam had the National Guard on standby for use in Metro Richmond. They have been deployed on 9th Street around the State Capitol. Concerning reopening, if I recall, Randall and friends, with the exception of 3 western district supervisors, supported the Governor. There is no evidence to say that they aren't doing it now either. As for the health data, the Virginia Department of Health is analyzing the data.

amerigirl

Not his job, or don't you realize that. Just to busy trashing him to know who is supposed to be responsible is just ignorant.

Guest

Randall hasn’t just been sitting on her hands, she was leading the protesters in Leesburg. Any shred of respect I had for her is gone. She has shown herself to have a complete lack of integrity, do as I say not as I do is not a leaders philosophy.

Guest

She was protesting for a cause which I’m sure you doesn’t resonate with you. Regardless of what’s going on fighting for what’s right never stops.

amerigirl

My respect for her has grown. You have to have integrity to stand up for your beliefs. How is she being contradictory in any way? We are in phase 1, you need to wear a mask inside businesses, not outside. Social distancing is recommended whenever possible. It is not mandatory.

CindyLou

Here is a news flash CHILDREN, he is delaying it because you "radical freedom fighters" think wearing a mask and trying to keep others safe is a joke. You think only ONE life is a joke. Very sad state of affairs for sure. Shame on you of you that think that ONE life doesn't matter.

springerdad

Clindy lou who - How many people were kept safe when 1,500 people crammed themselves into Leesburg on Sunday?

CindyLou

Springerdad. Not sure, I was actually would have been there if not for the Covid, but I did notice that about 80% or more had masks on. Many were young which is nice to see the young people standing up for racial injustice. Not sure there was much difference in the Protest group, than the Home Depot group. 1/2 the people packed in Home Dept. weeks ago had no masks on and 10 inches away from you. Very scary place.

scottva

Was Home Depot scarier than being in DC the last 5 nights?

amerigirl

Scott, I can tell you I have made 1 trip to Home Depot since the outbreak, and 1 trip to DC to protest. Home Depot was much scarier with their angry people blaming everything on the employees and yelling and threatening people, pushing carts into people and things. Basically the republican way of demanding their rights. Home Depot was much much scarier.

springerdad

AG - Just stop making things up. Good god anything to make a up something political.

Scott, I can tell you I have made 1 trip to Home Depot since the outbreak, and 1 trip to DC to protest. Home Depot was much scarier with their angry people blaming everything on the employees and yelling and threatening people, pushing carts into people and things. Basically the republican way of demanding their rights. Home Depot was much much scarier.

Ticked Off Ashburn Voter

Maybe, just maybe, the risk is overblown?? Remember the meltdown over the Ozarks Pool story 11 days ago? https://www.kmov.com/news/no-new-covid-19-cases-connected-to-memorial-day-weekend-crowds-at-lake-of-the/article_07f0e618-a653-11ea-bb4c-b313599c6423.html

adopted_va_son

@AG -- My son works at HD and never mentioned anything in your post. I'm sure it would have been talked about, so I'm quite sure you are sensationalizing and projecting. He did witness a "crazy lady" (his words) running around taking pictures of the two people that were not wearing masks and also yelling at the HD employees. Based on your post, that must have been you.

amerigirl

Springer, I guess you are the authority of how I feel and what I do. NOT. That is very true. I am high risk and my husband has done all the other shopping. The protest was very peaceful, the people were very nice, they handed out supplies if you needed them, such as water, hand sanitizer etc. Home depot on the other hand; A man (no mask) cussing at a clerk at the return desk as we walked in, no idea what it was about, but he was probably making more on unemployment and his $600 a week than that poor clerk. Another clerk getting the “I don’t have all day” speech since he was finishing up with the customer he had. When we were leaving there was something going on with a man and a manager there where the manager was saying he wouldn’t be welcome back, the man yelling something and when the manager said the word “okay” to him he pushed one of those blue cart for wood into him. I spent over 6 hours in DC and never had as bad of an experience as I did in the 45 minutes, we were at Home Depot. Don't tell people what has happened in their lives, you are clueless.

amerigirl

Adopted, Good for your son, which one?

amerigirl

Scott , I haven't been in DC for any nights, only one day.

amerigirl

Oh grow up and stop with the childish name calling. Most of those people were wearing masks Maybe 1-2 in the pics weren't, and they were outside.

tolerantleft

Everything is Life is a trade off and we need to get back to work. I wonder if you have the same thoughts about abortion....

amerigirl

Everything is Life is a trade off?? Glad I don't have your life. and once again [offtopic][offtopic][offtopic][offtopic][offtopic]

Jeanne T

Shame on you.

Sharing My Thoughts

I'd give more thought to the "open up now" crowd if they didn't toss in Coonman and KKK and "idiot" and "moron" and all the other ways they express their intolerance and unbalanced view of things.

KK153

"coonman" was the nickname his friends gave him in college... He was so proud of it, it appears in his yearbook. So what you are saying is using the name he gave himself is intolerant, right? Not the fact that he liked the name. or that he appeared in black face...

amerigirl

So wrong,,it was a nickname that 2 people called him that weren't even his friends. He doesn't know why, but it wasn't common then but all you republicans make that racist remark now. He wasn't proud of it, never understood why those 2 guys called him that. They have investigated the yearbook picture more than once and they cannot determine if that is him or not, but you know republicans, they spread it as fact. Look it up, Fact check it.

Jeanne T

"radical freedom fighters"

Well, then, "CindyLou", we're in good company with all the rest of the "radical freedom fighters throughout history, from those who dumped tea into the Boston Harbor, those who risked their lives in the resistance in WWII Europe in France, The Netherlands, and the Weiße Rose resistance movement in Germany against the Nazis (ever heard of Hans and Sophie Scholl, and Christoph Probst, three young people who were executed by guillotine four days after their arrest? Sophie Scholl was a beautiful young woman.), to those who fought in the Gdańsk Shipyard for the Solidarność movement in the Soviet Bloc country of Poland in 1980, to those who toppled the Berlin wall and brought down East Germany and its secret police, to the Romanian people, who arrested Nicolae and Elena Ceaușescu, put them up against the wall, and after a short trial and promptly executed these two tyrants. Have you ever heard of these events, "CindyLou"?

I tuoi commenti sono assolutamente ignoranti.

Guest

Great post. The "masks" are all about control of the freedom loving citizens.

RoundHillGuy

Did Jeanne T just drop the Mic? I think so.

Countyrez

CindyLou, that is racist calling those attending the rally in Leesburg, "radical freedom fighters"

scottva

At the moment, you're the primary joke.

Guest

Hey Ralph, please do something about Virginia Employment Commission and the lack of assistance to those out of work! No one can reach a live person when you call. The online chat is bogged down and the website e-mail goes unresponded. I've been out of work since April and yet to receive a dime while looking for work. Fix this!

Voltaire

Guest--I am sure that Governor Northam doesn't read the LTM. You may want to try the Richmond Times-Dispatch as that paper is one he probably reads in the State Capitol.

Guest

I've done that, thanks. I'm using every means I can to get the word out. Appreciate your reply.

amerigirl

Suggesting a petition, you can do it online.

ace10

That truly sucks. [angry]

amerigirl

Join the rest of the states. They are all working on it. email his office

Guest

I did, thanks. Just wanted to reach out here in case any of his employees read this. Thanks for your note. Stay well.

RoundHillGuy

Rioting, looting and protesting- OK, opening your business- not so fast.

Voltaire

RoundHillGuy--nobody is stating that rioting and looting are OK. They are violations of the criminal code. As to protesting, the answer there depends on whether the protesters are peaceful or not.

On the point about opening your businesses, I believe that the state finds it to be okay if the business owner follows the requirements outlined in the EO. However, the economic reality is that most of the small and medium businesses will have go bankrupt. That is the theory of corporate Darwinism. The ones with the better financial position survive and the poor ones fold. It also economic reality that when corporations return to their offices, there will be fewer people as those enterprises found that they are more efficient with less people so firing them is appropriate as they are an unnecessary cost.

Flabio

QUARANTINE is when you restrict the movement of sick people

TYRANNY is when you restrict the movement of healthy people

Guest

Agree. But Tranny is necessary to fight a pandemic. Honestly, that's why east Asia countries behave much better than Europe and North America during COVID-19 crisis. They are used to Tranny governance.

Voltaire

Guest, no, the difference between Eastern Asia countries and those in Europe and North America is that the Eastern Asian countries are more oriented towards the collective/community whereas Europe and the United States are more defined by individual liberty. East Asia countries, possible exception of China, don't use tyranny and are democracies (Republic of Korea, Japan).

CindyLou

Flabio, STUPIDITY, IS WHEN, "your behavior shows a lack of good sense or judgement" Oh and Trumps photo shoot is when "you use the Church and Christ for bad behavior"

Jeanne T

Was Pelosi's waving a Bible bad behavior for a photo shoot?

amerigirl

Pelosi is a very religious person, always has been. She reads the bible not uses it for a photo op after pepper gassing the God's children as mentioned in that bible.

scottva

The only thing scarier than COVID and the riots is you being allowed to vote.

amerigirl

Then move to a a place that makes you happier, most people in NOVA are voting along with her, not you. BTW have you noticed that a lot of your post aren't getting in because you can't meet the requirement at the bottom of the page? You can't even be civil enough to have your opinion posted some times, says a lot about you. They show up in my mailbox but are not in the articles.

amerigirl

How do you know if you are asymptomatic and are spreading the virus?

Jeanne T

How many times should one be tested? A test is a moment in time.

scottva

Well, if everyone around me gets sick and I stay healthy

Guest

Exactly!

amerigirl

TYRANNY is when you take peoples rights away like trump did when he pepper gassed the peaceful protesters. It's when you threaten war on your own citizens, like trump has. QUARANTINEis trump hiding in his bunker

Guest

You are no longer peaceful protesters when you ignore and disobey the Secret Service orders and warning to move back three times.

amerigirl

HA! It was the secret service that said in their incident report that the protesters were never warned. The also said that the crowd was peacefully demonstrating.

Voltaire

Guest--I believe that the incident commander for that action would have been the U.S. Park Police. However, your premise is correct that if the protesters do not follow lawful commands then the police are entitled to take appropriate actions to make them disperse. That is standard riot control procedures.

amerigirl

Vol and the park police were caught lying about what happened. There is too much footage to take anything they said as a premise.

Guest

I challenge people to do a little research. Yes, you may be behind on your bills. Yes, it may take you a few years to fully recover. However, entire families have been killed due to COVID.

If you are typing on here, that means you still have your life. Be thankful.

Side note, im suprised you nutjobs havent asked for the govenors birth certificate yet.

RoundHillGuy

show me the overwhelmed hospitals in Virginia.

amerigirl

Why?

Guest

Because the reason for the quarantine was to keep our hospitals from being overwhelmed. Virginia hospitals didn't come close to capacity and, in fact, lost money because they had vacant beds that produced no revenue.

Voltaire

Guest--no, Virginia hospitals lost money because they were banned from performing elective procedures which is the main money-making enterprise for hospitals.

amerigirl

Guest, why do you think that was the reason? Because that seems to be the call of the right. Go to the CDC or NIH sites, they say it was to slow and contain the virus.

Freedom

So does your theoretical view apply to those who violated the cdc standards ? And likely have infected most if not all where the riots are taking place then some? Yes I’am thankful and have not seen my granddaughters since lockdown following rules - but selfish people have slowed the stopping the virus down .

Freedom

Hate spreads so does the virus !

Voltaire

Freedom--and the correlation between the two is what?

Freedom

Im sorry for the late response the correlation is blame and hate are not germane the virus is

Voltaire

Freedom--OK, I got you. I totally agree but just asking for clarification.

Voltaire

Guest, as someone who lost a family member to COVID-19, I totally agree and am thankful to be here.

Guest

I hope you are posting this same type of garbage regarding the seasonal flu

amerigirl

Get taught, you think they are the same??

Guest

No need for birth certificate. Wouldn’t mind seeing his white hood though. The one he wore with pride in medical school

amerigirl

It got to big for him so trump is using it, whenever Stephen Miller isn't. BTW you know that the whole thing was investigated twice and they can't say that was him, but you keep running with your little conspiracy theory, typical republican.

Loudoun4Trump

When looting is it required to only have 10 people in the store? Dr. Fauci must be tied up in knots over this rioting and lack of social distancing.....open everything up and kids can focus on positive activities instead of rioting, looting, beating, and burning...

CindyLou

Loudounnotfortrump, It's not the kids rioting. It's the angry, mean, old people. The kids have it right. They are peaceful and emotional. Stop blaming adult behavior on kids.

Jeanne T

"It's not the kids rioting."

Where?

pual mase

Angry old people are rioting? What planet do you live on CLou?

I don’t know why you continuously choose to display such idiocy with your every post.

Guest

Thank you for pointing out this person's utter idiocy.

Voltaire

CindyLou--actually it is both young and old that are engaged in unlawful activities and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

amerigirl

As should the cops that used excessive force. Those who shot less-lethal bullets on protesters, bystanders and journalists, without warning being provoked. Like the bikers riding home in NYC that they beat, the college coupe pulled from their car and tasered, The kid who has brain damage from a rubber bullet, or the 2 people who lost their eyes from them. The cops that walked around spraying tear gas in the faces of people who were doing what they were instructed to do, even pulling the face masks down and spraying their faces. Then they go and spill out all their milk, steal their supplies, smash up their water bottles and destroy first aid stations.

Voltaire

AG--the officers identified in the situations you describe in your post will be handled by the appropriate police/legal agencies and through the internal review processes. That is how police misconduct, if substantiated, is handled.

Guest

Cindy. Lou, as an old person I object strongly to your blaming us for the riots and looting. Most of us are at high risk for coved and are staying in our homes. The real blame lies with the white supremists and anarchists coming from all over America to loot and cause violence and not from the peaceful protestors no matter what their age. I find your remark really bigoted .and biased.

LoudounMarine

CL - I thought that your posts couldn't get more ridiculous ... I was wrong.

Guest

Shutting down economy doesn't make any sense now since all those protesters with lots of goons and thugs are wandering on street on a daily basis. I do not see any social distance between them. Continuing shutting down the economy nationwide does nothing good but hurting citizens economically.

amerigirl

Shutting down does not make sense in regular times, these are not regular times, Try looking at the peaceful protesters that are there during the day. Yu can't social distance when you are being told by authorities where you need to be, you do it when you can.

Jeanne T

amerigirl, only the peaceful participants are "protesters". The rioters and looters in the major (Democrat-run) cities are criminals. Some of them are now murderers.

pual mase

“Peaceful” protesters are displaying poor judgement.

They are perpetuating a dishonest narrative and perpetuating the spread of the virus.

amerigirl

pual, peaceful protesters are displaying their rights under the constitution. Please learn to distinguish them from the rioters. It is ignorant to say that peaceful protesters are killing anyone.

amerigirl

That's right, be sure to distinguish between the two. Major cities are more populated, duh!

btm11

Loudoun County's confirmed COVID-19 cases stand at 2,636 on Tuesday. Statewide, the number of cases on Tuesday was 46,239. So Loudoun County has over 5% of Virginia's cases. Loudoun's population, nearly 400,000, is about .05 % of Virginia's 750,000,000 population. That means we have a hugely disproportionally large number of cases. Aren't we a hotspot in the nations pandemic?

Guest

Check your math. Virginia has 8 million people, so Loudoun has 5% of the population.

springerdad

BTM - Virginia's population is not 750 million it is 8.5 million. 8.5 million divided by 400 thousand is 4.71%.

We are about 1% higher than the state of Virginia.

amerigirl

We are being held back because we need to go through phase 1 first. We are part of NOVA, like it or not. Northern Virginia is in one of two areas in the state where there are higher rates of coronavirus cases per 100,000 residents than other regions, according to an analysis of Virginia Dept. of Health data.

Voltaire

BTM11--yes, I believe that you are correct.

LoudounMarine

btm11 - 750 million?? WTF!

Guest

Does anyone know the process to remove Phillips Randall as chair of Loudoun BOS? She is a disgrace!

Guest

Please explain the reason, which makes you conclude that she is disgraceful. From what I've seen since the beginning of the pandemic, either Loudoun leaders or State leaders have done a pretty good job.

Ticked off Ashburn Voter

Why is she a disgrace? Let's see. First she wrote a letter asking that Loudoun be held back. Then when the business community told her that she was killing Loudoun businesses she said she hoped that we could move to Phase 1 and then stay with the rest of the state when they went to Phase 2. Then this dreadful governor decided to hold us back again? Where was Randall? Did she push back? No. So, yeah pretty awful with no regard to local business owners that put their life savings into taking a risk her in our community. When they go under, it will be progressives "who know better" than the dumb little people who will be the cause of the death of their businesses, not Covid. And if you are high risk, by all means stay locked in as long as you care to. We're not trying to take your freedom away. However, you are more than happy to take away everyone else's freedom. And that is pretty terrible really.

Voltaire

Ticked off Ashburn Voter--how are you so certain that these local businesses would have stayed in business during "normal" times? If they were not financially solvent during normal times then they should go bankrupt. That is corporate Darwinism and those businesses that are solvent will thrive and those that can't go bankrupt. That is basic economics. I suspect that to be the case with a lot of small and medium business concerns. If these business owners don't like the county's response, they could have challenged it the legal courts. The State of WI was challenged on the grounds that their stay-at-home order exceeded its authority and they were found to be wrong. If that is not satisfactory, then they can move to other areas that are more "hospitable". You do, however, have a point about the local leaders not advocating for their constitutents with the Governor.

Voltaire

Guest--you can the find the process for removal of an elected official, such as Chairperson Randall, at the following citation of the Virginia Code: § 24.2-233. Removal of elected and certain appointed officers by courts.

springerdad

From the USA Today -

This will be used to keep Loudoun closed even longer.

Public health officials warn new cases of COVID-19 probably will emerge after mass gatherings fueled by the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis and racial unrest in cities across America.

Health experts fear carriers of coronavirus, which causes the disease, with no symptoms could unwittingly infect others at protests where social distancing is simply not taking place. The merits of the protesters' cause "doesn’t prevent them from getting the virus,” said Bradley Pollock, chairman of the Department of Public Health Sciences at the University of California, Davis.

Loudoun Observer

There's an easy solution to all of this. Every business should just open up as normal and let everyone know they are hosting a protest. Thousands will come out and no worries about masks or anything else and Northam and Randall will be happy everyone is peacefully protesting.

Guest

Totally agree...Northam is a disaster!!

amerigirl

Please he is doing pretty good, at least he hasn't started declaring war on the citizens and threatening them with force. he always wanted to be a war president.

Voltaire

Loudoun Observer--your proposed approach is a good way for an individual to lose their business as the Government will take that business's license away for non-compliance with the Executive Order and they would be forced to close.

Loudoun Observer

Well...that would the first thing I've seen enforced so far in this debacle. The rule of law is out the window with the rioters, the "curfew" has not been enforced anywhere at all and has anyone heard of any mask enforcement? All of these new rules are announced by liberal politicians and everyone now knows we can just ignore all of it. You do have a point though - if the left can't starve businesses to death via edicts and fatwa then perhaps they will look to find other means to destroy them.

Voltaire

LO, the rule of law is still there and not "out the window". The problem is, as has been demonstrated every time there is a civil disturbance in this country, is that the political class like to play police chief and interfere in police operations where they are neither wanted or needed. Police are trained to enforce curfews and conduct riot control while the "ivory tower elites" and political wonks are not. However, the "ivory tower elites" like to meddle in every aspect of riot control and policing. That is why police are having problems quelling this because they can't do what they need to do because "oh my gosh" someone might injured due their inability to follow lawful police commands. As for mask enforcement, there is a section in the Governor's Executive Order that states that a Class 1 Misdemeanor can be imposed on non-compliance however the Governor waffles on who does what. As someone in the finance/hedge fund/economic world, have you given any consideration that these businesses that everyone is complaining that Government is destroying, might have been financially failing and would have closed anyway? The economic theory of corporate Darwinism applies and these businesses, if they were not financially solvent before the chaos/lockdown, then there was no guarantee that they would/should be here afterwards and should file for bankruptcy. As for redundant labor costs, yes, corporations should cut those and fire the people as that is an unnecessary expense on the balance sheet and, given the efficiency that was demonstrated from work for home, should cut their real estate footprint too. That is economic FACT and has nothing to do with the Government.

amerigirl

Vol, It really has very little if anything to d with politics, it’s the republicans that are playing it up that way, mostly due to their fearful leader trump. It is about justice, the abuse and deaths of a certain sector of American citizens. Police are now being told to attack innocent bystanders? They may have been told what to do but that doesn’t make it right. All you talk about is the rights of the police, the ones that are already armed, and not any of the rights of citizens. The biggest "ivory tower elite" is trump. Trump put Bill Barr in charge of an unmarked collection of federal police, turning this country into a banana republic. Bring in unmarked forces from covid hot spots and stripping the citizens of their rights. As Retired Marine Gen. John Allen: Trump's threats of military force may be 'the beginning of the end of the American experiment'. We are losing our Democracy, businesses should be a concern but they shouldn’t be the man concern right now.

Voltaire

AG--again, the police give a lawful command and the demonstrators don't follow it then they have the right, by law, to take reasonable action to disperse the demonstrators. That is textbook riot control techniques taught in police academies throughout this country. I don't need to talk about citizens' rights as most citizens, one would hope, would know them as they are taught as part of the curriculum (Civics 101) in both private and public education systems. Actually, since the Department of Justice deployed Emergency Response Teams (FBI), Federal agents/marshals, and Bureau of Prisons riot teams into the field, it would make sense that the Attorney General, as the head of the Department of Justice, would be responsible for oversight. Again, as I have mentioned, you want to know what violent countermeasures to riots? Look at how European police agencies handle them. They have carte blance (France (CRG)) to use ANY force, including the use of water cannons to suppress protests. Consider yourself fortunate that you don't have to deal with water cannons. I think that the claim that we are losing our democracy is a tad of a stretch. The United States has gone through worse times than this and will overcome. BTW, business/economic interests are also important and shouldn't be ignored.

Guest

Great comment. This whole lockdown, masks, etc. has been a farce. It's only purpose is to give rotten politicians more power than they should have. Unfortunately, and I am disappointed to see, so many "sheep" in the NoVa area fall in line and not question the outrageous "mandates" from the wanna be power grabbing Gov.

amerigirl

And so many will be in jail, more will be sick, more will die. The reason your idea is easy is because it is something a simpleton would say.

Freedom

Loudon needs to sever from fairfax - moreover , the drive up testing is being done in a zone with little to no covid19 cases. The testing needs to be done via walk up where the zones have higher counts. In this county it would squash the virus - but I have to tell you the riots may have ruined the chances -

Loudoun Observer

With the last election here, Loudoun actually became part of Fairfax.

Voltaire

LO--say what?! How exactly did that happen?

Voltaire

Freedom--actually, no, the increase in testing does nothing to stop the spread of the virus. It only provides the public health authorities with information of where the virus is. The only way you are going to "squash" the virus is through the development of a vaccine and therapeutic treatments. Until this time, people are going to have to take proper precautions.

Voltaire

Freedom--how is Loudoun connected with Fairfax County?

Guest

Loudoun has over 400,000 residents, with only 165 who were hospitalized. That means 99.9% have little or no health issues with COVID. Meanwhile over 25,000 are now unemployed. The increased lockdown puts more businesses and jobs at risk of going away. Be responsible, but get back outside, stop listening to Northam and use your voice to hold Randall accountable for her disgraceful incompetence as chairwoman.

Guest

Amen. Open phase two Governor!!!!!! People need to attend Church and goto work!!!

Guest

u don't need a church to pray pray at home..

Guest

what a dumb response.

Voltaire

Guest 1--you are correct. Many churches also have online services that you can participate from home.

Voltaire

Guest--assuming that those people will have jobs to go back to.

btm11

The number of cases in the County is slightly more than 5% of the population. Covid-19 is one of the most contagious diseases of all time and can be fatal to anyone with some other health condition. Some people may have the disease and not have any syptoms, but can infect others nevertheless. Those who do show symptoms are contagious for several days before they even show symptoms. At least wear masks when out of your house to protect the vulnerable in the event that you are contagious and don't know you have the disease..

springerdad

BTM -

your math is so wrong. The county population is 400k and the number infected is 2,700. That equals .7 of one percent. No where close to 5% of the population.

Guest

Excellent. Open up everything!

20 Year LoCo & 57 YO American

the Left Wing Nut Jobs have to be voted out at every level come Nov elections. When you walk into that ballot box realize that this is nothing but a Left Wing Democratic Party Power Play. The left wants to take all of our rights away from us and to make us bow down to those few who gain power. VOTE GOP down the ticket if you want your freedoms back.

Freedom

Mike Kay- also having lived in a Country while serving the the USA - where communist we’re trying to force their views they would use the same tactics the communists are using in these cases they would infiltrate peaceful protests then cause damage - these same attacks and methodology have been used many times throughout history. George Floyd and That cause has been piggy backed - those who want communist have never lived with them , communist are the enemy of freedom. Be that as it may - in the end this weakness and unwillingness for the people help rid the infiltrators from the protests fall back on the police and they have been hurt - the ones who would never do what the police officer who killed George Floyd did. Let me tell you I’ve seen communist first hand and trust me when I tell you America does not want them here trust me communist are evil.

loudouncommonsense

And the biggest error is mistaking progressivism for communism. Folks here seem to want to tar progressive ideas with the "commie" label, but that is the same mistake as tagging "conservatism" as feudal.

Guest

Progressives are pushing a socialist agenda. Not communism. People need to get there terms straight. There is a huge difference but they both are completely oppressive.

Voltaire

Guest--true statement.

loudouncommonsense

oppressive is a foot on the neck of peaceful protesters: aka clearing protesters for a pres photo op with a book he apparently doesn't abide by. Feudal, oppressive, hostile overreach most often utilized by dictators.

Freedom

Guest progressives might be pushing socialist views , but i assure you the tactics by Antifa are communist- have you lived in a communist country guest ?

Voltaire

LCS--the clearing of protesters by the U.S. Park Police was proper. If those individuals did not follow a lawful command from the police, which apparently they were warned 3 times, then they are allowed to use those types of force. That is standard practice in crowd/riot control. People in this country should be grateful that this is the USA, as in other countries, France, the police have unlimited authority and have specialized units (CRG) that are trained to use whatever methods are required (including force) to make protesters disperse. Water cannons are an effective means of clearing protesters.

Freedom

Are suggesting Antifa are progressives ? Maybe you need to read up on the tactics , that is what I”m pointing out nothing more - also while your at it dig

Deep on the origins of progressives you might not want to use that word .

Guest

Loudouncommonsense, do you mean like Nancy Pelosi's photo op with her specially ordered impeachment pens on the same day that President Trump created his Coronavirus Task Force Team?

amerigirl

Guest, there is a photo op every time a major piece of legislation is signed. Pick out Pelosi, trump dos the same thing every time he signs something.

Freedom

Mike Kay - the southern poverty centers lead person has declared no white supremacy groups are involved - be that as it may any violence is wrong - the protest has nothing to do with any president right ? This is about George Floyd and the senseless killing of him. With respect to the people violating the cdc guidelines I hope they self quarantine. As a Army Veteran I hope all people use their rights - people died for Americans to have rights - but encourage self quarantine and testing- those of us who have followed the rules and want the virus to leave so we can go back to work ! That is not germane to the causes you relate it to . So if one person dies

From covid19 traced to the riots are the rioters guilty ? See hate spreads as does this virus - it’s time to grow up America -

Voltaire

Freedom, yes it is time for America to grow up. There can be a balance here between public health and the economy. However, just because people want to go back to work, the companies may not want you back. They found, during the lockdown, that they can operate more efficiently with less people so they will permanently eradicate jobs to reduce excessive labor costs and become more efficient. Further, companies that weren't successful before the pandemic will probably not come back either and that is right too as that is the economic theory of corporate Darwinism.

Freedom

Not sure work is work if from home great , but the concern is the virus - the last week we have stepped backwards - the virus isn’t going away until people follow the rules some are not doing it - the virus is now being used as a tool of oppression if the rules do not apply to all - that’s very simple logic

Voltaire

Freedom--actually, if you want a cold and insensitive viewpoint, the virus outbreak helped corporations realize that there were too many redundant people on their payrolls that are a cost drain on their bottom lines. The answer is too fire them. Also, it allowed corporations to consolidate real estate/facilities and that saves on costs. Further, this virus also helped industries clear out those firms that were not profitable as they went bankrupt. Basic economic theory. Until a vaccine is developed/implemented, you will have COVID-19, a variation of it anyway. People need to take precautions. There is no "oppression" going on with this virus--that's the logic.

amerigirl

Vol, that may be your take on what corps are doing. I think you are wrong. Some of them have realized that they don't need to pay the overhead they have been paying if they can have people work from home. Others know they need a full staff to get their business up and running again. What you said could be true in some circumstances but probably not in general.

Voltaire

AG--no, that isn't just "my take" but that of Wall Street as well. You are correct that most of them have realized that they don't need to pay the overhead they have been paying if they can have people work from home. Others do know they need a full staff to get their business up and running again.

Sharing My Thoughts

And customers aren't yet coming back in droves no matter what's open.

Voltaire

Sharing My Thoughts--a good observation too.

amerigirl

How do you know that?

Voltaire

AG--probably from economic data, found on the Bloomberg terminal, from retailers. The data is showing that large "box" retailers are doing pretty well but the others are experiencing a little pressure due to COVID-19 and the ongoing civil unrest. Good time to be shorting their stocks.

amerigirl

Could be because we are only in phase 1, give them time.

Guest

[ninja] Definitely keep posting your thoughts on how you would do a better job. Feel free to run next year and show us all how it's done. Even better, stop by an ICU or ER near you, and ask yourself, "So when doctors and nurses go home and self-isolate, I wonder what they think about my ideas?"

Good Guy

The dictator and Randall don't give a damn about the hard working people of Loudoun whose livelihoods they have destroyed, those they have bankrupted, those they have put out of work, and all those on the verge of destruction. They are socialist dictators. They protect only those they favor. The best response to illegal edicts is massive civil disobedience.

Remember all the DEM politicians who are depriving us of our liberty, and right to work. We are definitely NOT in this together. It's clearly "DEMs vs. Jobs" - Because of them, you lose your job! They shamelessly take their pay!

Guest

Pound sand buddy and get a clue.

++1

nailed it. So many reactionary, xenophobic, nativist, resentful cranks on this comment page should indeed, "pound sand and get a clue"

loudouncommonsense

I think your statements are to say the least, weird. Republicans seem to get covid at the same rate as democrats and the majority of Americans prefer caution over re-opening too quickly. You offer no proof of liberty being denied, or the democrats being against jobs. Get your s**t together and post facts for your claims

Voltaire

Good guy--first, Governor Northam is not a dictator. Although I agree about the possibility of livelihoods being destroyed, it isn't that neat. For example, it is not certain that these businesses that you refer to were financially successful while they were open and would have closed on their own. That is called corporate Darwinism and it is an effective economic concept. Also, corporate america, correctly in my view, found that there was a lot of excessive costs (human capital and overhead) in their operations and thought the best way to solve that is through elimination of jobs. Better yet, it is correct that businesses that cannot be successful should go bankrupt. Again, nothing that Northam and Randall did there. Corporate America is not all "DEMS" but has a lot of Republicans as well.

Ticked Off Ashburn Voter

Voltaire - you seem like a smart person. But, your continued use of "Corporate Darwinism" seems to imply that healthy businesses can survive for months without revenue "or they would have failed anyway." That's not the way small/medium businesses work. Many small businesses, and especially restaurants which have very small profit margins, have enough capital to survive 2-4 WEEKS. No 2-4 MONTHS. So, not Darwinism. It's wanton destruction of others property to force these businesses to fail. We were all on board when it was "15 days to slow the virus." Then something amazing happened. We change strategies from "Flatten the Curve" to "Shut down until Trump is ruined." Look, I didn't vote for Trump. Can't stand the guy. But, ruining the entire economy, throwing 40M out of work, destroying 10s of thousands of businesses is wrong. It's wrong and it is tyranny to take away people's rights like this. It sometimes is impossible to believe that this is still the US. And Loudoun has certainly made a turn from a business friendly community to part of the progressive march. I hope that LoCo BOS has overplayed their hand and they all get tossed next election. But, I don't know that enough people will wake up because the media has everyone "terrified" of a virus that now we know has a death rate very similar to the seasonal flu. It's not the flu, but kills about the same number of people. And for this, we'll destroy our nation? Take away people's rights?

Voltaire

Ticked Off Ashburn Voter--first, thank you for the compliment. I appreciate the additional context. I totally agree with you about small businesses and your overall comment. I didn't know what size of small business you were talking about that is why that I concluded that corporate Darwinism should just naturally play out here.

Guest

Tell the dumb axx governor to open up northern Va. Also he did not agree to send troops to the Pentagon what a goof. Need to put his ass in the middle of those idiots that are rioting and looting.

Voltaire

Guest--the decision of whether to open up Northern Virginia is predicated on health data obtained from state/local Departments of Health. The Governor of the Commonwealth requested National Guard units but the responsible local government, Arlington County, may have asked Northam not to provide them. However, the President of the United States, under the authority of the Insurrection Act, can overrule and deploy military assets to perform police functions such as riot control. BTW, Northam is in the middle of rioters as the State Capital in Richmond has been the target of rioters for several days. Several VA Capital Poilce officers were hospitalized from assaults by the rioters.

Bob

Where is it written? The gov has no authority to confine anyone in Virginia. He is operating these days outside the law. He will pay for it as well as the socialists he is pandering to.

Mike Kay

LOL @ "socialists". Try a dictionary Bob, you really need it!

Guest

why do i feel like you’re a 50 year old that spends 90% of his time on facebook

Voltaire

Bob--no, Governor Northam is not operating outside the law. Executive Order 53, the Stay-At-Home Order, was issued by Governor Northam under the authority vested to the Governor by Article V, Section 7 of the Constitution of Virginia and § 44-146.17 of the Code of Virginia.

Guest

Bob, then so is every elected official. Local, state and federal.

Duncan Idaho

I have to say, the comments section has really gone downhill. Who are all these "Guest" posters? How does profanity get through? Does this site have a moderator? It's getting to be like Fairfax Underground.

Guest

This is what happens when you tell us to stay home and starve while your brethren loot and burn the city. More of us will come out of the woodwork.

Duncan Idaho

I have to say, the comments section has really gone downhill. Who are all these "Guest" posters? How does profanity get through? Does this site have a moderator? It's getting to be like Fairfax Underground.

Tired of Stupid

Many of the same people shouting at Governor Northam are also shouting about how there's no reason to listen to the current protest over how law enforcement deals with people of color. Throw in a side of "Trump's doing a great job" and I'm ready to ignore them as just agenda-driven annoyances.

Guest

you idiot, we will listen to because of the first amendment, but don't hurt us or our business. idiot

scottva

I've not heard or seen any comments that "Many of the same people..." you referenced saying there's no reason for the protests. You're conflating two different things. If you consider thieves, thugs and arsonists as protestors, then I'd heed your own advice and ignore them because you cannot offer an relevant counter viewpoint.

Guest

Northam is a moron and a power hungry puppet. Vote him out if you value your right to earn a living outside of government or big corporate control. I wish we had an option for President to do the same.

springerdad

Amen to that!

Guest

I really hope and pray that you dummies really don’t believe this about the governor.

scottva

Guv. Blackface, well he wears blackface, klan robes and is a proponent of infanticide, just the tip of the iceberg. I hope and pray people like you begin to distance themselves from such and awful person

Voltaire

Guest--you don't have to worry about Governor Northam having a second term as the Constitution for the Commonwealth of Virginia only allows the Governor a one 4-year term and he cannot run for another term for 4 years.

Guest

Thank God Virginia only allows one term for Governors! Or did Northam pull a Bloomberg and add an additional term?

Voltaire

Guest--there has been no modification to Article V of the Virginia Constitution to allow for an extra term for Northam.

springerdad

Just remember all the people protesting this weekend will be screaming at you to keep 6 feet away from them everywhere else.

BobOhneiserEsq

So what was the "DATA" used to make such a decision? The only thing different about Northern Virginia versus the rest of the state is that "WE" are openly harvested by Richmond to the tune of hundreds of millions per year as our sales proceeds are taken by Richmond because they think we pay LCPS staff too much and don't need it. NONE of our legislators are willing to tackle this problem but because they are entrenched in a party feel insulated by such lethargy. VOTE next time and perhaps this absurdity will stop. :-)

What's the Rush?

You may have a rant you want to make but can you keep it on the topic of COVID-19 and the risk that NoVa poses? I still see many, many people without a mask, not keeping any distance from others and after 5 days we haven't yet had time for the phase 1 abusers to incubate and show symptoms. Give it a few more days...

scottva

Send your note to the protestors in Leesburg because they sure weren't social distancing. Is social distancing optional for protestors? If so, I'd love to attend a protest like that

Voltaire

BobOhneiserEsq--the Governor and the State Health Commissioner, Dr. Norman Oliver, are probably using health data about rate of infections/hospitalization/deaths and making extrapolations to determine whether Phase 2 can be achieved. I hate to break to you, but Northern Virginia is part of the entire Commonwealth and everyone pays taxes to Richmond. You don't how the Commonwealth of Virginia operates tax authority/collection take it up with Governor Northam and the General Assembly.

Ticked off Ashburn Voter

We need the Loudoun Board of supervisors to send a letter demanding to move us to Phase 2 with the rest of the state like everyone said when the held us back once. This is ridiculous and everyone knows it. Let the county's businesses begin to recover and let the taxpaying (HIGH TAXING) citizens begun to live again. We are adults. We are able to make our own decisions about our personal risk tolerance. C'Mon Chair Randall. We'll all be watching your next move.

Mike Kay

Ticked off: Clearly you're NOT an adult if you still think this is all about you. This is an example of why we need adults in Richmond making decisions for us.

springerdad

Mike Kay - The adults in Richmond have allowed these protests. You are can't be that ignorant but I think you are.

Mike Kay

Springer, protests are allowed. Looting and violence by your white supremacist buddies, not so much. Call them off!

Voltaire

Springerdad--the state/local governments (including the "adults in Richmond") allowed peaceful demonstrations. They did not allow the unlawful act of rioting. However, unless they had intelligence (Federal/police) beforehand that rioting would break out, they couldn't stop lawful peaceful protests as these activities are protected by the Constitution. Once the rioting commenced, then it is the responsibility of the local governments to quell that with available law enforcement resources. State police resources, including MRAP/Armored Units, were provided. Northam informed the Mayor of Richmond that National Guard resources were available for use, but that decision is the decision of the Mayor of Richmond Stoney. Same situation applied to other cities/counties in Virginia. Local leaders made their own decisions, such as Arlington County withdrawing law enforcement resources from DC, which was a bad tactic as you don't cede territory to the enemy combatants.

amerigirl

Springer. You want to know what is even more stupid than protesting in a phase 1 opening of a pandemic (the one everyone thinks should have opened at phase 0) is that trump in his mighty idiocy brought forces from all over the country. Some now tracked down to hot spots, into DC because of his paranoia. He brought corrections officers from Beaumont Texas which has a terrible out break of Covid. Knowing him it’s to punish the people against him. Were any of these military or other people ever checked for the virus? I’ll bet when there is a second wave he will say it is the fault of the protesters not the thugs that are beating, stealing from, and abusing the peaceful protesters.

scottva

MK - If you think we have effective adults in Richmond, they clearly we need to consider voting in kids. Perhaps you are unable to run your life and need the government to make decisions for you, me, well i can think for myself.

Ticked off Ashburn Voter

Where did I say it was about ME? I think it's about the small business owners and other businesses that invested in our community and are being choked off. There are many people who would help them get back in business. They either have already had Covid, or in low risk categories. It should be their choice. Freedom. It used to be a thing. If you think our elected leaders are "more adult" and they should be "making decisions for us" you haven't met many elected leaders. I have. They are human. And sadly, many of them have become drunk on power.

Voltaire

Ticked off Ashburn Voter--there is no guarantee that these small businesses would return to profitablity. So, the economic reality is that they would fold. Those with better financial suitability would thrive. Sounds cold but that is how it is. As for people being laid as redundant, well, that is economic reality as corporations have found that they are nothing but extraneous costs that need to be eliminated and that the productivity of these businesses operated either at or more efficiently.

amerigirl

Which is what they were elected to do. They are following through on their campaign promises. They are adults, and adults elected them.

Voltaire

Ticked Off Ashburn Voter--the county BOS can send Governor Northam all the paperwork that they desire however, he has the authority to make that decision and it is his alone.

The Discounted Aged High Risk

As one adult would rightly to her selfish child, I choose not to let you endanger my life by turning on the stove and then going out to play. See ya in the ICU? NOT!

Voltaire

Ticked off Ashburn Voter--as previously addressed in an earlier post, the BOS can send Governor Northam as much paperwork as they desire but it doesn't matter as the Governor is solely responsible for this determination.

springerdad

What were his thoughts on Covid-19 and it's spread at local protests?

Mike Kay

Springer, another example of non adult behavior: Using bad behavior to justify your own bad behavior.

springerdad

Here is how dumb you sound and it is very dumb. The only behavior I have called out is at the protest. I have not asked for masks not to be worn or social distancing to be stopped.

scottva

SD's comment was not difficult, but like a good Liberal, you are unable to answer a direct question and resort to belittlement.

Ashburn Voter - watching your actions Loudoun Board

We need the Loudoun Board of supervisors to send a letter demanding to move us to Phase 2 with the rest of the state like everyone said when the held us back once. This is ridiculous and everyone knows it. Let the county's businesses begin to recover and let the taxpaying (HIGH TAXING) citizens begun to live again. We are adults. We are able to make our own decisions about our personal risk tolerance. C'Mon Chair Randall. We'll all be watching your next move.

DrDoctor

FAIL.

Our incompetent governor strikes again and our BOS Chair is toeing the line. Both should resign.

There is NO REASON to further penalize Loudoun County. Like someone already pointed out, it's ok for thousands to destroy our great cities and not use social distancing protocols, but if you live in Loudoun, you won't be allowed to eat inside a restaurant or gather in groups greater than 10. RIDICULOUS.

Does anyone in Loudoun government have the kneecaps to lead??

Mike Kay

DrDoctor: The wing nuts are batting 1.000! More childish justification based on bad behavior. Glad you guys don't have responsible career positions.

Guest

Your fake elitism is showing.

Mike Kay

Guest: "Elitism"...the act of reading voluntarily. LOL

scottva

MK - Your "non-adult" and "childish" usage is over used and clearly shows your inability to respond like someone with half a clue.

Voltaire

DD--well, the Governor of Virginia can't run for reelection. You don't want the Lt. Governor Justin E. Fairfax, the replacement to Northam as he is worse than the Governor. As to Randall, that point is valid.

OK, I think that local/state officials have a little more pressing concerns, like quelling the rioting, than worrying about social distancing restrictions. The reason that Loudoun County, as well as the rest of Northern Virginia and the City of Richmond, is due to the health data that is being reviewed/analyzed by the Virginia Department of Health. To answer your last question, the answer appears to be no.

Peterrabbit

The protestors refuse to obey the curfew!

The dummy governor does not wear a mask at Virginia Beach nor does he social distance. Stupid Randall goes to the Leesburg demonstrations to make a speech and doesn't social distance!

It's simply time to say....the hell with the government and open up your businesses!!!!!

Right Wing Nut

Yeah, dude. I am so totally impressed by your insight. You Rawk RabbitMan!

Guest

vote him out, you know its time for reason, vote "right"

Voltaire

Guest--in accordance with Article V of the Virginia Constitution, Northam is only allowed to serve one 4 year term and cannot run for another term for another four years.

Guest

Well said Peter. Randall and Northam are a disgrace. Don't let Loudoun become Fairfax and Arlington. 99.9% of Loudoun residents have no major issues with COVID but they want to keep us locked up. Loudoun needs to get back to business.

Voltaire

Guest--OK, your point about Randall and Northam is valid. If you are talking about urbanization of Loudoun County? If so, then this county is closer to becoming either Fairfax or Arlington County than you know. On the COVID-19 front, that percentage doesn't look right as more residents have either died or had issues with COVID. Nobody gains anything from extended lockdown but there is a public health emergency in effect so that has to be considered too.

Voltaire

OK, the protesters refusal to to obey curfew? Which one? Richmond? The enforcement of the Richmond curfew lies with the City of Richmond Police Department with assistance of suburban counties/State Police/City of Richmond Sheriff's Department. Involvement by Governor Northam would only occur with deployment of National Guard units. The above process for curfew enforcement Richmond would apply in any city/county in the Commonwealth of Virginia. No argument for point 2 as both illustrations show poor judgment. As to Point 3--you do that and see what happens...more likely your business will be forced to close due to non-compliance with state government orders which the courts would find legally reasonable. But go ahead and we can see a real test case....

Fiscalconservative

It is not bad enough that Northam delays our opening what is worse is our board of supervisors and our chairwoman don't speak up they follow like sheep. So much for OUR elected officials trying to help US. Wait until next year when their lack of helping businesses to open results in serious revenue shortfalls.

Guest

But you're not a sheep when you blindly follow the example of a morally bankrupt President? Oh, that's right, you're morally bankrupt yourself.

Guest

Ridiculous. If it's safe to gather to destroy cities shoulder to shoulder and without masks, it's safe to socialize cordially. The hypocrisy will not be tolerated any longer.

John M

Nothing says equality like stolen Air Jordans.

scottva

I think Blackface has a God complex. Absolutely NO reason to hold us back. You're sick, stay in. Not feeling well and have to go out? Wear a mask. It's that simple. And please, all of you righteous Liberals who will say I want people dead and I don't care, please save it. There was a protest the other day that had 1,000+ people not practicing social distancing and don't use George Floyd as the exception. Thank God for Ralphy's Exclusion section in his EO.

Guest

I’m ready to stand up to left wing radicals.

Guest

These losers are more concerned with Trump holding the Bible backwards than the destruction of a major city.

Mike Kay

The losers are the fools who think Trump was sent by God. What a bunch of kooks!

Guest

God bless Trump, so needed after ,,,, listening to you.

CindyLou

No, us real Christians are appalled, Just like the Priest at St. Johns, that Trump would use the Bible for bad behavior and a photo shoot, while gassing peaceful protestors standing there. I am surprised God didn't smack that bible out of his hand, but you know. God's pretty forgiving isn't he?

Voltaire

CindyLou--those "peaceful" protesters were violating the law by failing to follow lawful commands by the police. They were told to disperse three times by the U.S. Park Police incident commander and they did not. When you don't follow the lawful direction of the incident commander, the police are allowed by law to do what they did. This is basic riot control techniques and law during civil unrest. Why is this so hard for most people to deduce/understand?

Guest

Mike Kay, the sore losers are those who still don't accept the results of a fair election almost four years after the fact.

Guest

CindyLou, they are no longer peaceful protesters when they ignore and disobey the Secret Service orders and warnings to move back three times.

amerigirl

Vol, well it looks like the real thugs are cops, not all, but quite a few. The peaceful protesters were not, let me repeat, NOT failing to follow any directions or lawful commands. They have recording from the press who were right there and had a camera (CBS) 15 ft up on rigging on the fencing, with audio that clearly show that there were never any projectiles thrown, and when told to move back the crowd started to recede and that they began throwing pepper balls and shooting less-lethal bullets at the crowd. This is all confirmed by the Secret Service incident report. The police are not allowed to attack the American public for no reason. Definitely not so trump can have a photo op. So, either they followed their commander who was wrong, and they broke their oath to serve and protect. Either way, it was wrong. You can’t use basic riot control techniques on peaceful citizens, that’s why they are called riot control techniques. Now you have unprovoked police brutality against American citizens legally protesting against police brutality

amerigirl

Guest, the results were accepted, you listen to too much trump speak. People may not have been happy and they will make sure it doesn't happen again. But trump is already working on his excuses on why he will lose. He has started a list, gotta make sure it fits his agenda.

amerigirl

Guest no one warned the protesters or the news crews that recorded everything that took place to move back. Not once, not twice, not three times, it was all recorded. Besides the secret service said in their report that it never happened.

Guest

No reason? Well, for one, we literally entered Phase 1 Just five (5) days ago.

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Guest

So articulate, please may I hear more?

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pual mase

Hey Posey

So you think the president has no right to walk a public park to the church sidewalk but protesters are allowed to occupy, deface and set fires indefinitely.

And yes I will direct my comments to the biggest racist president , Barack Obama.

Mike Kay

ScottVA: Blah blah blah libruls blau blah blau gubmint. All you right wing nuts are just proving how kooky you are, over and over and over again.

Guest

admit that Obama divided us when we gave him a chance to excel. He failed,,, and you will fail us if you disagree.

Mike Kay

Guest: A TrumpTard complaining about OBAMA dividing us? That's a laugh coming from a tRump supporter. I guess if you're talking about dividing racists from the rest of us you'd have a point!

CindyLou

Oh come on!!! That a joke Guest! "There are good people on both sides" meaning, the KKK are good people??? Trumps famous words. Maybe if he had done something then, the country would not be at civil war.....HAHAHAHAHA,Mike Kay is right, the more word vomit you liberal haters spew, the kookier you look.

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CindyLou

Inbreed liberal? Ha ok little #ick man that has to call people names to feel big!!!! Us liberal's will be crying over your remark until NOVEMBER and our problem will be over. However, yours last a lifetime doesn't it?

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Mike Kay

Paul Mase...Obama is a racist? Hilarious! This is like 6th grade! "I know you are buy what am I?! " Another kooky right wing nut heard from. BTW, the violence in the protests is from alt right white supremacists you dummies!

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