The immediate future for small businesses in Loudoun County and beyond remains uncertain as the COVID-19 pandemic continues to disrupt consumers and their spending habits.

In the past, some of the county’s rural business owners relied on spring and summer revenue to carry them through the slower winter months. Now, many are shifting gears in hopes of surviving and eventually turning a profit again.

On Aug. 21, several local business owners shared their stories and concerns with Congresswoman Jennifer Wexton (D-Va.-10th) during her day-long tour through western Loudoun.

Wexton stopped at Hope Flower Farm in Waterford, Harpers Ferry Brewing in northern Hillsboro and Wild Wood restaurant in Leesburg. All three businesses have received federal financial assistance since the pandemic began, according to congressional staff.

Curtis Allred, owner of Delirium Cafe and Wild Wood Pizza in Leesburg, said one of his concerns is the confidence customers have in restaurants during the health crisis. Unless there is a massive psychological shift, he said, he fears for his business’s viability and the greater economy. He said if some customers are choosing not to sit outside during the summer, how can restaurant owners expect the customers to sit outside during the winter.

“I can have all the space I want, but if I don’t have any guests, it’s irrelevant,” Allred said.

In hopes of assisting, local economic leaders recently launched a campaign called “Loudoun is Ready” to help boost local consumer confidence.

With more than 350 local businesses on board with the pledge, owners and staff are promoting “the best health and safety practices for customers,” said leaders from Loudoun Economic Development, Visit Loudoun and the Loudoun Chamber of Commerce. The campaign started once Gov. Ralph Northam (D) allowed Loudoun and other northern Virginia jurisdictions to reopen.

Dr. David Goodfriend, director of the Loudoun County Health Department, recently expressed concern about the COVID-19 crisis continuing into the flu season, something he said could compound health care problems stemming from the pandemic.

Ronda Powell, co-owner of Harpers Ferry Brewing, said the flu season worries her too and that it could lead to business activity taking a step back.

“We have to figure out COVID,” Powell said while giving Wexton a tour of her business located next to the Potomac River. “My biggest concern is to make sure I’m prepared if we do go backwards. But going backwards so abruptly and quickly … I can’t prepare for that.”

In Waterford, the staff at Hope Flower Farm has coped with the pandemic downturn by growing vegetables, opening the farm to photo shoots and offering educational packages.

With fall and winter approaching, Holly and Evan Chapple, co-owners of Hope Flower Farm, say they’re already over 2020. “I can’t even endure one more thing this year,” Holly Chapple said.

After touring parts of Loudoun for several hours, Wexton said she’s impressed with how business owners have adapted to the challenges in the past few months. She said she understands their concerns.

“They’re absolutely right, because they don’t exist in a vacuum,” Wexton said. “They are one part of a big production chain and consumption chain, so there’s going to be impacts all throughout our economy as a result of the tough times they are experiencing in hospitality and restaurants.”

Wexton says she is continuing to push for transparency in the distribution of small business relief funding, and she said she wants to make sure minority-owned businesses are not shut out of the programs.

Earlier in the day, Wexton made a stop at the Keyes Gap on the Appalachian Trail to talk about the Great American Outdoors Act and conservation efforts along the trail. The act provides about $3 billion to conservation projects, outdoor recreation and maintenance of national parks. In Virginia, it’s estimated that it will create or help support more than 10,000 jobs.

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LetsBreal

Oh look. Another AG horror show! A video is worth a thousand posts....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B72fbXDQ7Lg

Loudoun4Trump

Here's how the conversation went...Wexton: I am going to raise your taxes and regulate you out of business...Owner: Huh?.....Wexton: then we are going to cut off all energy production and put windmills on your property....also will take your guns and exchange for illegals to work in your fields.....Owner: Get off my property....

amerigirl

another far out righty tighty conspiracy theory. Bizarre.

Raymond LuxuryYacht

The VA Legislature just passed a bill allowing assault of law enforcement to now be classified as a misdemeanor and removing mandatory minimum sentences for the crime. We don't conspiracy theories, the Democrats are proving them true in real-time

amerigirl

Ray, how is that a conspiracy theory? What are you talking about? Here’s the summary of bill 5032 which leaves the decision up to the judge and would allow an assault against a law enforcement officer to a misdemeanor if the person attacked is not hurt.

Eliminates the mandatory minimum term of confinement for an assault and battery committed against a judge; magistrate; law-enforcement officer; correctional officer; person directly involved in the care, treatment, or supervision of inmates; firefighter; or volunteer firefighter or any emergency medical services personnel and provides that such crime can no longer be committed as a simple assault and must result in a bodily injury. The bill also removes mandatory minimum 6-month jail sentence for assaulting a police officer.

Soooooo, in other words if you pointed a finger at a cop and it touched him you would not have to go to jail for 6 months after being charged with a felony. And???

Raymond LuxuryYacht

Allowing the seriousness of assault against law enforcement to be diminished at a time when threats and rhetoric directed at law enforcement is heightened sends the wrong message.

Raymond LuxuryYacht

"Soooooo, in other words if you pointed a finger at a cop and it touched him you would not have to go to jail for 6 months after being charged with a felony. And???"

Well, you shouldn't be making contact with a police officer in the first place, soooo yeah

amerigirl

Ray, if the assault harms the person then the whole thing does NOT apply. Is it right if you put a finger on a cop you should be charged with a felony? It is left to the discretion of the judge. Think of this too, in 35 states, no laws expressly define all sex between police officers and detainees as non-consensual. It becomes a he said she said and there is the qualified immunity for cops. Who is protecting the citizens?

amerigirl

Ray, be realistic, things happen that aren’t planned. SOOOOO yeah, it’s alright in your mind for that? How about if they ask you for your license and you accidently drop it and it hits their leg? Should you go to jail for that? The punishment should fit the crime this isn’t some third world country. What about freedom and justice for all?

Jeanne T

And why did they feel the need to do this?

amerigirl

Jeanne, because things happen that shouldn’t for stupid reasons. Like in Virginia where there are no laws expressly define all sex between police officers and detainees as non-consensual. Therefore, a detainee might feel obliged to “consent” to sex in order to avoid being arrested or detained, even on false charges.

If a woman is being touched and knocks an officer’s hand away, she could face a mandatory sentence of 6 months in jail and have a felony on her record.

Stepup

Loudoun4Trump got it right.

The democrat platform adopted by Joe Biden and Wexton does want to raise your taxes dramatically, eliminate fossil fuels that will cause electricity rates to skyrocket and impose new regulations that will strangle business and kill jobs. No conspiracy....... it’s available for all to read. Funny how the democrats don’t want to talk about it so propagandists like Amerigirl can lie about it.

amerigirl

L4T got it wrong a did you. Do you make more than $400,000 a year? If not than there would be NO raise in your taxes. But how do you feel about the record deficit trump has put us in making the future adults have to pay for it? How would switching to renewable raise the rates? Electricity from fossil fuels costs between 5 cents and 17 cents per kilowatt-hour. Solar energy costs average between 3 cents and 6 cents per kilowatt-hour and are trending down, according to the National Renewable Energy Laboratory. You made a lot of claims but you would be the one lying because you can't prove it. If it's available for all to read, where is it? Countless studies have found that because output from wind and solar replaces fossil generation, renewables also reduce CO2 emissions.May 12, 2020. To see the efficiency rate and the sustainability go to https://www.consumeraffairs.com/solar-energy/solar-vs-fossil-fuels.html So Ace, how does me giving facts and proving them make me a liar vs. you who just repeats the latest right wing mantra?

ace10

Indeed.

It's all about moving the actual platform to the left, while anyone who points out this fact is called names and berated.

They're a truly despicable lot.

amerigirl

Ace, that’s a joke, right? Trying to be the victim now? The left is calling names from the person who is constantly making post about those people instead of the articles? Just like you final sentence.

Jeanne T

I think your response is bizarre.

Jeanne T

"Paul Rand has a strange sense of what an attack is. When the guy broke his ribs, that was an attack. When protesters yell at you especially a public figure, that is to be expected."

His name is Rand Paul. And I just saw an interview with him and his wife on the incident evening. They had to be rescued by the police. Repeat: THEY HAD TO BE RESCUED BY THE POLICE. Is there something about that which you do not understand, amerigirl? They were unarmed and they were threatened, and so would you be if you were suddenly surrounded by an angry mob yelling at you. Surrounding defenseless individuals and threatening them is not only harassment, it is violence. And it is also a crime. So is marching into a neighborhood at night and disturbing the peace. And yet here you are minimizing that situation like a clueless twit.

amerigirl

Rescued??? Oh please, no one ever touched him and he was being overly dramatic. The police escorted them. Is there something about that which you do not understand, Jeanne? Can you at least get a few facts right jeanne? Yelling is not violence; vi·o·lence behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. Angry people yell at politicians all the time, it is their right under the first amendment, so how is it a crime? The protesters walked around him and shouted "no justice, no peace," "justice for Breonna Taylor" and "you need to respond." The closest thing to violence was when an officer walking next to his bike pushed back a protester, and the situation escalated as the protester returned the push and sent the officer falling backward into Paul. This was also not a residential neighborhood as you make it sound like it was. I personally do not think it was the right way to do things and I don’t think that the cops handled it very well. You might think that I am minimizing but I think you are hyperinflating the situation. But is that really a reason for you call me names? You just need to calm yourself down, you don’t want people yelled at but it’s ok for you to call people names? Pretty hypocritical.

jbsets

Were you at the meetings?

This is why I worry about another civil war. Won't be north vs south, but people will make assumptions about people's philosophies and pull a gun of some sort. I respect the 2nd amendment and have no desire to take anyone's guns. I don't care who has a gun as long as it's used responsibly. I don't own a gun and don't want to. That's me, but doesn't mean I want yours or anyone else's. However, I don't want to be shot or anyone I love (or like or even don't like) to be shot for no reason or even at all.

Any chance that you could stop making assumptions about people?

LoudounPulse

When will Mr. Cline do a full page story on Aliscia Andrews? It's pretty telling which side of the political spectrum LTM is leaning when all their stories are of Democrats.

amerigirl

Maybe they haven't had inquiries into anyone else. Try emailing and asking them to do an article on her. It couldn’t hurt

Jeanne T

"I guess you can just play by or with yourself."

How immature of you. You sound like a teenage school girl.

amerigirl

Seriously? Who is really the immature one here? Maybe it’s you with your comments like "yes or no answer the question" and makes up makes up names using the initials for a news outlet? It wasn’t said to you was it?

Loudoundad

Good idea. Mr. Cline should o a piece on Aliscia Andrews speaking in front of the Bull Run Republican Women's Club, or the Loudoun County Republican Committee, over the last two weeks where she and 95% of the attendees were not wearing masks or social distancing. She also had a rally in Sterling last week with no masks or social distancing.

Does anyone have pics of Ms. Andrews campaigning at the Chantilly Gun Show two weeks ago they can supply to the LTM? Perhaps, since the RNCC has dismissed her campaign by not funding it, the best thing for the Andrews campaign is for the LTM to not promote her stances on mask wearing and guns galore.

jbsets

Wexton is a Democrat. Cline can't change that. The story is about businesses in Loudoun County being hurt and trying to come back. I'm not aware of any Republican doing that. She can't fix what she doesn't look into or talk to us about.

Alex Jones

Wexton's job is to follow Pelosi and burn it all down! Trump/Andrews 2020

amerigirl

You wouldn't have a clue about anything she does so why do you try to pretend you do? Prepare for a bubble burst

Raymond LuxuryYacht

"You wouldn't have a clue about anything she does so why do you try to pretend you do? Prepare for a bubble burst"

The Left has been awfully quiet about the riots recently. When will Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer condemn the riots in Kenosha instead of jumping to conclusion before all the facts of the case are released?

amerigirl

What????, no there is a lot said about the riots, the protests etc. Even FOX news said; Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden condemned the violence in Kenosha, Wisconsin in the wake of the shooting of Jacob Blake Wednesday, saying “needless violence won’t heal us.” But again, since you don’t listen to what the democrats say how would you have a clue? Who jumped to a conclusion?

Stepup

Democrats and stupid professional athletes forget to mention the guy in Kenosha violently resisted arrest and reached an to his vehicle for a knife. He admittedly he had the knife!

If you don’t commit violent crime, don’t resist arrest and ignore police commands and don’t reach for a weapon, you won’t get shot.

Can democrats be that stupid or do they want the unrest and violence?

Loudoundad

The riot after a 17 year old Boogaloo shot three people, killing two, or the protest beforehand? It is weird how some people cling to the absurd notion of how awful it was that a knife was found on the floor of a car owned by a Black man, but ignore that fact that a 17 year old White boy with a visible semi- automatic weapon slung over his chest, was able to walk past at least three police vehicles, rolling to the scene of a shooting, without a peep from the police.

amerigirl

Stepup, did you get the whole story? So quick to blame others especially democrats. This wasn’t a political thing at all so why are you trying to turn it into one? Did you look at the videos hat were made from different locations? Yes, he told them he had a knife, they ask if they have any weapons and he was not trying to hide it. He didn’t commit any crime; the police were called there for a domestic dispute between 2 women. The dispute that he successfully stopped. So, what violent crime did he commit? Why were they trying to arrest him anyway? I’m pretty sure they violated his civil rights. What kind of cop shoots into a car that has 3 kids and a woman in it? Then does it 7 times in total? In front of his kids? Those kids are scared for life. I can tell you what kind of cops do that. The same department that thanked illegal militia for being there and gave them water. The same corrupt police department that after one of those militias, who probably was too young to legally possess a gun, shoot 3 people and when he was surrendering told him to get out of the way and didn’t arrest him. “Corruption, lies, multiple evidence plantings, and deceit existed throughout the entire Kenosha criminal justice system,” concluded one report, commissioned by the Wisconsin state Supreme Court in 2017 after officers allegedly lied and planted evidence in a murder case. Justin Blake isn’t the first person they shot for no reason, another young man was shot in the head and killed when a cop hooked his gun on a car mirror and thought the guy was taking his gun. They have had multiple lawsuits against them for excessive force and unnecessary deaths

Squaks11

AG -

Do you ever get you facts right? You are so dangerous with your misinformation.

Sunday's incident began when a woman called police saying "her boyfriend was present and was not supposed to be on the premises," according to investigators.

In a police call, a dispatcher names Blake and says he "isn't supposed to be there" and that he took the complainant's keys and refused to leave. The dispatcher later explains she doesn't have more details because the caller was "uncooperative."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/us/jacob-blake-wisconsin-thursday/index.html

Squaks11

AG - There was NO woman in his car with his kids. Where do you make up these facts of yours?

Blake's three children were in the vehicle at the time, attorney Ben Crump has said.

amerigirl

Squaks, and how is my info dangerous? Did it hurt you? The only difference is that there was some uncooperative woman making the call that said Blake wasn’t suppose to be there. How does that change anything? Did they ask for the keys, or know if he was supposed to be there or not? Are you missing the point that is was a domestic dispute, an argument, and they shot him in the back 7 times? How was he threatening the police? Did he reach for the knife, did he try to run them over? No, he never made it into the car. Cops can’t just shoot you for no reason other than not listening to them if you are not threatening them.

amerigirl

Squak, give it a rest, my god, only a section was wrong because that was the info the news had previously put out. But it took until today for the police to make a statement. After seeing the other things that department has done why should anyone believe them? That was the whole story until the police story today. Don’t be such a jerk, you don’t have to read my post, nobody is forcing you to. So, ignore them you can be ignor-antly blissful. Funny about the hitler thing, isn’t that the guy that trump had writings of next to his bed, well yes, yes it was.

Jeanne T

The Clueless News Network is just now worrying about the riots and looting because of the polls. Why didn't they condemn it immediately and continually? Citizens whose businesses were destroyed don't give a rat's behind about polls. As I said, Clueless News Network, commonly known as "CNN".

Jeanne T

How do you know he doesn't have a clue about Pelosi? Do you? What sort of asinine response is that anyway?

amerigirl

Ken the squaker, who doesn’t know what a Karen is. What business? Do you know what that word is? I don’t do business with them. So many lies. What will you do with all your extra time? I guess you can just play by or with yourself. Then you use a quote that I never said, sad for you. Only you said that all the rioters are right-wing. What makes you think rioters aren’t being arrested?

Jeanne T

"since you don’t listen to what the democrats say"

And just how would you know that?

amerigirl

, now you have sunk down to the 3rd grade level on making up cutsie names? Seriously, I thought you were above that. No, they are not just now worrying, the have reported it as long as it has been going on. Why do you think it has to do with polls? The riots aren’t a democratic thing, they are an equality thing and democrats have not supported the riots on any station. If you think they have can you show any example of it? There are plenty of people at many of these riots that are from the far right and are stirring up trouble. Mostly the 3%ers, proud boys and bugaboo boys. There are many smaller right wing militias like the one the shooter in Wisconsin was in. Hw do I know, from him saying so in previous posts.

Squaks11

Jeanne - This is how people act that someone always defends. I really love the proud boy that punches the old man in the back of his head.

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul and his wife were attacked by a mob of protesters as they left the White House Thursday. Raucous protesters accosted Republican National Convention guests leaving the White House, after they tried to drown out Trump's speech with bullhorns and drums. Protesters were heard chanting 'No justice, no peace' and 'Black Lives Matter'. ideo shows Paul and wife Kelley being surrounded by dozens of activists and aggressively accosted as they leave the Republican National Convention, where Trump had just accepted the party's nomination, as police officers try to hold the crowd back. At one point an officer holding a bicycle to shield the couple from the demonstrators was shoved backwards, stumbling into Paul and almost knocking the Kentucky senator to the ground. After being escorted safely to his hotel, Paul tweeted thanking police, saying there were 'over 100 activists' and that officers had 'literally saved our lives' from the 'crazed mob'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8672681/BLM-protesters-gather-outside-White-House-Trumps-RNC-speech.html

RNC attendees are attacked by BLM mob after being left with NO police protection: Elderly man is punched in the back of the head and knocked to the ground while balaclava-clad protester threatens to 'f*** up' RNC committeeman and his wife

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8673417/RNC-attendees-attacked-BLM-mob-left-NO-police-protection.html

amerigirl

Squaks, yes this is how quite a few people react when they are fed lies as facts. You love a right-wing white nationalist that punches old men? That is crazy ridiculous. That is about as low as you can get. I suppose you love the little militia boy that killed 2 people and injured another? Paul Rand has a strange sense of what an attack is. When the guy broke his ribs, that was an attack. When protesters yell at you especially a public figure, that is to be expected. It happens to politicians all the time. In fact it looks like the only incident was a cop loosing his footing while walking backwards. I would never even look at any article form dailymail, check out their rating on bias https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/ I will go with right leaning The Hill https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/514103-sen-rand-paul-says-he-and-his-wife-were-attacked-by-an-angry-mob-leaving. If politicians from either side don’t think they will have people that protest them they have their heads in the sand.

Squaks11

AG - The funny part is I know you did not look at the video because it was a black woman punching the old mad in the head last night in D.C. I set you up and you took the bait hook line and sinker.

As usual you deflect and defend bad behavior. I swear you will defend ANYTHING that fits your political beliefs. I am going to start calling you Baghdad AG.

You get your talking points every morning and no matter what the facts show you keep to those talking points.

Glen Kessler gives you Four Pinocchios.

amerigirl

Squaks. Look at you patting yourself on the back for something you thought would happen that didn’t. The funny part is you’re congratulating yourself for trying to fool someone that didn’t fall for your childish antic. Fell for what? I flat out said I wouldn’t watch anything from the piece of garbage daily mail, so you know I didn’t watch it. I commented on you saying you love people who commit violence. How did I defend bad behavior, I didn’t even look at it? You can’t have it both ways saying I didn’t see it and that I defended what I didn’t see. You do realize that if you start making up your third-grade names for people that post here, that you could lose your right to post here, don’t you? There are regular people that used to post here all the time that are not allowed to anymore. LMT has already said they will shut all comment sections down if they can’t get the nastiness out. First, they are going to a paywall, next week I believe. If that doesn’t work then it will be shut down.

You are the one having problems with facts, you take all these right-wing sites that promote conspiracy theories and fall for it every time. You don’t bother to fact check any of it. BTW it is Glenn Kessler, and I have used articles from WAPO to discredit your remarks before, guess you have that backwards.

Jeanne T

"Why do you think it has to do with polls?"

Because it was articulated at CNN, that's why, amerigirl. What do you have to say about that? Do you think I'm making this up? Yes or no, answer the question. Contrary to what you may believe, I actually do pay attention to what the 'other side' is doing and saying", directly, which means from their own mouths.

They are getting nervous about the polls because the rioting and destruction are now INFLUENCING the polls against the "Democrats". Lawless governors and mayors, all of them Democrats, are allowing it to happen. Yet, CNN, among others, have not condemned this lawlessness as vociferously as as they should have been doing FROM THE START, unlike the "right" you so despise and blame for everything that's wrong in this country. When the first act of destruction occurred in Minneapolis it was no longer about George Floyd.

Now tell me, amerigirl, how is it that a reporter from CNN can stand in front of burning businesses and claim these are "mostly peaceful" "protests"? How is the possible, and why? They are NOT protests. They are acts of terrorism. They are violent uprisings. BLM and ANTIFA are the terrorist arms of the Democratic Party of today. Not a word of condemnation of these two entities from Nancy Pelosi. Ilhan Omar and her ilk are supporting it. Every Democrat who supports the BLM and ANTIFA organizations are supporting the destruction and lawlessness. And frankly, looking at the videos of ANTIFA and BLM protestors in their black masks one can hardly tell if we are looking at protests here or ISIS in the Middle East, or an intifada in Gaza. And that's why I call CNN the Clueless News Network. Because they are just that, clueless, or worse, willfully ignorant. And either one makes them complicit in the unrest.

amerigirl

Jeanne, you are just so demanding, aren’t you? Yes or no answer the question. I meant to write politic not polls, I didn’t realize that you would become hysterical about it, so sorry. What do you have to say about that? Who is running this country? What president has this going on under him? What president is always passing the buck and blaming everyone else? Well jeanne, you want to know “how is it that a reporter from CNN can stand in front of burning businesses and claim these are "mostly peaceful" "protests"?” That’s pretty simple if there has been peaceful protest all day and then rioting at night you can make that point. You tell me jeanne how many right-wing sites jumped on that and twisted it? Who’s job is it to condemn? Isn’t the news supposed to not make those jumps? Yes there are violent uprisings , they are riots, I DO NOT condone riots so why are you jumping on me jeanne? You seem to be mixing peaceful BLM protest with violent rioter. Many of whom are actually from far-right groups and are well armed. That is why the protesters started arming themselves. Democrats do not support ANTIFA. They want justice as do democrats but they don’t agree on the process. But that doesn’t stop trump from calling them dems. That is like saying people against animal cruelty are one party or the other. If you think there are not right-wingers out their inciting violence then you are not getting the entire story. Look at the letter the militia sent to the police telling them not to get in their way in Wisconsin. Then look at the police thanking those vigilantes for being there. Boogaloo has had men arrested for trying to incite rioting not to mention they killed 2 Bay area officers. You seem to think they are all ANTIFA, read this www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/ orhttps://www.businessinsider.com/trump-republican-allegations-antifa-protest-violence-disinformation-campaign-2020-6

Counter-terrorism expert Seth Jones, "Left-wing violence has not been a major terrorism concern.

Right-wing extremists kill 329 people since 1994, antifa have not killed any You have to know that they have caught these right wing people at the riots if you have been keeping up with the news

ace10

ltM doing that hard-hitting journalism thing again.

amerigirl

Complain complain, maybe you should work for them and fix it.

LetSanityPrevail

Not a bad idea. I wonder if they accept free-lance journalists. Every time I have written to the editor about ideas for a story or for clarification I only get cricket responses, well not even cricket responses, just no response.

amerigirl

You could try calling Phone: 703-777-1111, and ask if they allow freelancers and not just letters to the editors and if they have an application site online.

Raymond LuxuryYacht

It's been over a month now since BoS Juli Briskman's inflammatory and divisive tweet on July 23rd. The Times-Mirror apparently has nothing to say and will not question her or ask her to respond. A shameful lack of journalism on the part of the LTM.

DarkHelmet 1983

What was is that Zero Briskman tweeted?

Raymond LuxuryYacht

This is still up on her account. Imagine the outrage if you reversed the genders. This a disgusting tweet.

"Typical white male privilege and they get away with it all the time.

Cross markDeny everything

Cross markAdmit nothing

Cross markMake counter accusations

Cross markChange the subject at all costs

Cross markGaslight anyone who is not repelled by the first four"

amerigirl

's been over a month now since BoS Juli Briskman's inflammatory and divisive tweet and you're still bringing it up.

Raymond LuxuryYacht

"'s been over a month now since BoS Juli Briskman's inflammatory and divisive tweet and you're still bringing it up." Yes, because it is worth bringing it up. In case you don't know, Briskman is an elected official and when they say controversial things, it would behoove the local media to report them, no? I mean, isn't it the job to hold public figures accountable?

More Cowbell

As usual, talk, no action. VA gov and Dems dislike small businesses. They've done so little to help. Haven't heard from Loudoun BOS for weeks, all are AWOL as usual. Taking their big raise pay check and hiding out. Media still pushing Covid/Flu, even when numbers down. Even finding many positives were negatives early on. But why would media report on old news that doesn't fit their agenda? Both parties could/should have done better.

jbsets

You do realize that Democrats and Independents own businesses too and they got hurt by covid and govt closure, etc.? Small business ownership and pain is not the exclusive property of Conservatives and Republicans. It's shameful all the vitriol and blame gets tossed around on this platform. You know, we could run into each other o the street or in the grocery store or wherever and have a lovely conversation and walk away thinking, what a lovely person, without ever knowing that hate that is spewed without knowing each other. (run on sentence. sorry)

amerigirl

Many Virginia dems own small businesses, or is owning a business now a political thing also? Don't you get newsletters from your rep? If not and you want to stay apprised of what the BOS is doing then you should sign up. You aren't going to hear anything unless you listen. Big raise? that 2% after not getting a raise in 10 years? The media is pushing the news and people want to be informed on the situation of covid, they want to know if it is increasing or decreasing and if areas around early on them are doing the same. What negatives early on, you couldn't even get a test unless you were on deaths door? There were so many positive cases with sick people who couldn’t get a test.

loudouncommonsense

westrnsky: So, you are saying that all of the 175,000 people who died are wimps?

The problem isn't just the victim, it is the vector who infected the victim. Like where a school child who has no symptoms comes home and infects parents or grandparents who possess no comorbidity factors.

How does your "wimp" theory prevent that situation? Or do you say "it is what it is?"

LetSanityPrevail

You are correct in that the vector can be the children or others who have no symptoms, however you do realize that 80% of the fatalities are those over 65 with 1 or more comorbidity factors. You are not going to get to a zero vector situation even with a vaccine since this virus is already showing signs of mutation. Public health also has to take into account statistical probabilities. It has been said many times on this board and elsewhere that it is unrealistic to expect 100% eradication.

loudouncommonsense

Good points LSP, BUT wstrnsky is calling out cautious people as "wimps." The continued demonization of others by the supposedly "strong and brave" seems to be a weak way to convince people of your cause since the stats show thousands of cases of "brave" people getting sick and yes, dying.

jbsets

So we should all just toss our masks? What about the person who was asked to put on his mask in a grocery store with a sign on the door, in a county that required a mask, yells at the owner for asking him to put his mask on? This guy gets pissed and then deliberately walked over the my sister-in-law and coughed on her? Is that okay with you? What about if she brings it home to my brother who is only 56 and has MS? Is 56 old enough to be okay for him to die? Is having the misfortune to have MS an okay reason to die? That is a very painful and mean thing that you are saying.

LetSanityPrevail

Your reading comprehension is very limited and you like to suggest things that were never said. At no time did I say you should do away with masks but that is typical of your hyperbole and misguided comments. I stated the fact that no virus can be 100% eradicated.

amerigirl

Do you think we should just give up and let the virus go on killing people? Age doesn't matter it is still killing. But that isn't all it does, there are so many side effects, some permanent, that you don't seem to care about. It isn't the older people that are having all the clotting causing strokes, heart attacks, and amputations, it is the middle age and younger.

You may think it's okay to let it defeat you but I think most Americans would like to contain it as much as possible until there is, at minimum, a vaccine that can improve their odds.

Jeanne T

"Do you think we should just give up and let the virus go on killing people?"

Are you talking about the flu virus? No? Doesn't the flu virus kill people year after year? So what do you propose? Indefinite lockdown for something the most people survive, like the flu?

amerigirl

Jeanne, there is a difference in all viruses. I was relying to Letsanityprevail and he is talking about covid. Yes, the flu kills every year, so get a vaccine. The difference with covid from influenza is that is much, much more contagious. The flu is always symptomatic, covid is not, so you can be spreading it without knowing it. As I aid there are many side effects that can accompany covid that do not accompany the flu. Since people are always symptomatic with the flu they stay home and don’t spread it as fast. Most people survive like the flu? No. Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected. If you want a comparison There were 15,455 COVID-19 deaths reported in the US during the week ending April 21, 2020. There were 1626 flu deaths during the peak week (week 3 of 2018) of the flu season in 2018-19. That is over 9 times as many deaths from covid. The US usually has 61,000 deaths a year from the flu, there have been 845,521 covid deaths in 6 months. We are already at almost 14 times higher with covid than the flu. Why do you think I propose anything more than listening to the experts?

LoudounPulse

Wexton is out for a photo-op with LTM in tow. I'm still waiting on LTM to do a front page piece with a Republican running for office.

ua113

Yep, another LTM puff piece for Wexton that basically amounts to a campaign contribution from Cline.

jbsets

Are there any?

Squaks11

Interesting article

Flu in the Southern Hemisphere has 'practically disappeared.' What does that mean for America's flu season?

July 24, 2020

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Countries in the Southern Hemisphere are reporting lower numbers of flu cases this year compared with previous years—and health officials are attributing the decline to widespread coronavirus restrictions such as mask wearing, travel restrictions, and social distancing.

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/07/24/coronavirus-restrictions

Bye Don 2020

Hate to break up the pity party that our Trump supporters are having. They get so annoyed when they're reminded that Democrats actually realize that taking a government paycheck means you should do more than just play golf and dream up divisive tweets.

Voltaire

Bye Don 2020--your statement is flawed. One, your statement states that "...Democrats actually realize that taking a government paycheck means doing more than playing golf and dream up divisive tweets..." The situation with the current round of economic stimulus would show that that statement is false. The Democrats, just like the Republicans, have not completed the next round of economic stimulus and are equally culpable. Two, you also cannot make the argument that ALL Democrats realize your correlation between taking a Government check and getting things accomplished.

jbsets

Voltaire You statement is flawed. The stimulus did not make it to everyone, nor did it stimulate anything. The big companies got lots of govt tax relief but it didn't trickle down in most cases. The House has put forth hundreds of Bills, including stimulus Bills, in front of McConnell and he outright refuses to put them in front of the Senate for discussion, let alone a vote. If the Bills sit on his desk without any movement, how does anyone expect any of them to pass? That isn't a Democrat or Republican thing. He won't move on any of that even when Republicans ask for them to be brought in front of them. You are correct that not all Democrats correlate a check with getting stuff done. However, we can definitely count how many times Trump has been golfing and didn't even leave the course during emergencies, deaths of important people, crises, etc. See the link below from Golf News about how many times Trump has golfed since taking office and how much this has cost the country. I would be happy if he paid for all of it out of his own pocket and kept his paycheck. It would save us a lot of money.

https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsnetteam/2020/08/22/how-many-times-president-donald-trump-played-golf-in-office-103836/

amerigirl

Wrong , the Democrats had their next round of economic stimulus completed before the republicans even started a plan. They began working on it right after the first package went out. It is McConnell that is stalling the package. https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-second-stimulus-check-updates-20200827-x3p5nlcef5e4hpb2ovhkcuungi-story.html

Stepup

Trump donates his paychecks.

Biden parlays his lifetime government employment to get rich and line the pockets of his family.

amerigirl

Trump donates is paychecks, haha, he would have to work over 80 years to donate what it has cost the taxpayer to cover his golf trips. Not to mention that all those campaign flights he has taken on government planes are supposed to be repaid and he hasn’t paid a single dime. Nor has he paid the places that he had rallies in as he is required to.

That BS on Biden is just another republican conspiracy theory. Of all people to say about people getting rich off the government there is no comparison to trump. He hires his family for all those positions. Promotes his properties through the govt. He has spent one out of every three days as president visiting one of his luxury resorts, hotels or golf courses. He has used his position to promote his international developments dozens of times. And he has directed millions of dollars from U.S. taxpayers to his businesses around the globe. A Chinese state-owned company was awarded a multimillion dollar contract to help develop a Trump golf course in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, amid a U.S.-China trade war. T-Mobile executives stayed at Trump's Washington hotel while seeking a green light from the federal government for a merger. The IRS commissioner, who refused to release Trump’s tax returns to Congress, collects rent from a pair of Trump condos in Hawaii. “President Trump is openly enriching himself by encouraging government entities to spend money at his businesses, and foreign entities appear to frequent his business to curry favor with this administration,” said House Oversight and Reform Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y). “President Trump must be held accountable for his blatant disregard for the Constitution.”

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Amerigirl

The fact that you believe that a guy worth multiple billions would use the presidency to pad his expense account and sell a few hotel rooms is ridiculous. He owns most of the golf course he plays and probably loses money as course access is restricted.

You conveniently ignore Obama’s many golf outings, Hawaii trips and African family boondoggles.

I can’t tell if you actually believe the moronic stuff you post or are so brainwashed that you have no sense of reality.

amerigirl

Step, how do you know he is worth even 1 billion? He won’t release his taxes, will he? The same guy that said he was worth 1 billion and later made it 3 billion while he was doing Apprentice. I don’t doubt the has made a small fortune using his influence as president. What president charges the secret service a higher rate in his own hotels than the standard rate? He does not lose money on his courses, you and I pay for that. Consider that Obama who played 333 rounds in 8 years, to Trump’s 275 in less than 4 years. Now remember Obama sometimes used the lawn of the white house to play golf. As far as vacations, according to the conservative group Judicial Watch based on federal government records, the Obamas took 1 every year 8 total at a cost of about 85-90 million. Trump takes almost every weekend off (often extended weekends) and travels to one of his resorts. By January of this year 3 years into his presidency he had vastly spent more than Obama did in 8 years at 118 million dollars. That count is up to at least 140 million dollars counting his golfing. Obama did travel as president to Africa 7 times, they were business and diplomatic trips, just as the 10 Clinton took to Africa during his presidency. This president doesn’t like to travel and would rather send someone else when possible. The fat that you believe the moronic stuff you repeat from god only knows where has to do with your sense of reality. My reality has to do with facts that can be proven, yours is true brainwashing. Try fact checking sometime.

amerigirl

Step you may not like what I say, but it was in response to your righty tighty talking points, which were lies. My conclusions??? I didn’t give my thoughts on anything it was facts that you can easily verify. It’s not my fault that the facts disprove you, they just do. I get most of my info from govt sites, what would you like proven since you are just gullible to right wing propaganda?

jbsets

https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsnetteam/2020/08/22/how-many-times-president-donald-trump-played-golf-in-office-103836/

jbsets

And you believe that he donates his check? You show me some real documentation because I can't find any.

ace10

Tell that to the teachers and the DMV workers.

jke

Puffery!

LetsBreal

You know it's on the way...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYKScQ3gn2I

David Dickinson

Give Wexton a mirror so she can see the problem.

Fiscalconservative

Talk, talk, talk, how about coming up with a solution and I don;t mean throwing taxpayer money at the businesses,

Stepup

Maybe Wexton learned something but I doubt it.

Anybody that supports the Pelosi madness, like Wexton, is a fool.

amerigirl

But you support the liar in chief?

Stepup

Trump has accomplished more than any president in my lifetime despite relentless lies , attacks and resistance from democrats and media..

Don’t expect the resident-liar of the LTM to understand.

amerigirl

Step, then you must be the resident liar, but he has accomplished golfing more than any other president. https://trumpgolfcount.com/ 275 outings at a cost of $140,000,000 to the taxpayers. He has created a lot of division with his racism and divided the classes with his tax cuts for the rich. I’m sure he has lied more than any other president. More than 20,000 to date and that’s not counting the convention or all the lies about mail in voting. His attack on democracy has not been outdone by any other president either, holding the post office hostage during a pandemic. How many Americans died needlessly because of his slow reaction to the pandemic? So what has he done that you think is an accomplishment? I would love to know because he has taken credit for things that Obama did before trump was elected.

jbsets

Wow that is scary if you believe that. He has only accomplished padding his family's, friends, and Communist dictators' pockets. Some of his political cronies have poop on their noses from licking his behind and others have lint on them from hanging out in his pockets. How do you people all the poo about him being the second coming? I just don't get how anyone can believe what comes out of his mouth. I just don't get it.

Virginia SGP

Why doesn't Wexton talk to the rabid teachers union activists who refuse to return to school? Solving that problem would eliminate most of the issues for these businesses. They are promoting irrationally paranoid policies.

Customers will come back if the Leftist Democrats simply open up the economy in Loudoun.

WesternSky

The United States is full of a bunch of wimps. We should open up everything -- and everyone should assess their unique tolerance for risk and adjust accordingly. If you are old, or obese, be extra mindful of being in crowds.

Until we're past this -- we should continue to be strict about masks and being respectful to fellow citizens. But shutting down isn't the path forward.

amerigirl

Do you know how many American would be handed a death sentence if that was done?

Thetruthhurts

Do you liberals know how many people will be given a death sentence by way of starvation if Joe Biden shuts down the economy, as he has promised to do (not counting those purged for their treasonous behavior)?

amerigirl

Please share where you came up with those ideas from. Fed officials have said the future health of the economy depends on the course the virus takes. Minneapolis Fed President Neel Kashkari earlier in August called for a six-week shutdown to stop the spread of the coronavirus. The difference would be that he would make sure that the people are taken care of. What is this purged for their treasonous behavior BS?

Loudoun4Trump

You might as well be talking to a brick wall....

amerigirl

Then I would have to say you have never spoken with her. so how would you know? Just another hateful comment on someone you don't like because of their political party.

marv

a g You just described yourself talking about the president.

amerigirl

Wrong again marv, I don't make generalizations on what I don't like about trump. It isn't because he is republican. I have a dislike for him for what he has done to this country and it's citizens. There are republicans I like even if i disagree with their policies.

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