Loudoun County Board of Supervisors

The Loudoun County Board of Supervisors listens to requests from department heads during a budget work session in Leesburg in early March.

The Loudoun County Board of Supervisors is backing efforts by Virginia lawmakers, specifically the Virginia Black Legislative Caucus, to address criminal justice reform and excessive force by police in the upcoming General Assembly session in Richmond.

But not all supervisors backed the VLBC’s agenda, which includes reducing school resource officers, providing greater oversight over policing and creating a civilian review board with subpoena power.

The board’s three Republicans — supervisors Tony Buffington (R-Blue Ridge), Caleb Kershner (R-Catoctin) and Matt Letourneau (R-Dulles) — opposed the motion made by Supervisor Juli Briskman (D-Algonkian). The board discussed the item during the July 21 business meeting.

Among other aims, the VLBC specifically wants racism declared a public health crisis in the commonwealth, hate crimes expanded to include false 911 calls based on race, to require courts to publish racial and other demographic data of all low-level offenses, to expand the use of body cams, to require independent investigations for all police-involved shootings or deaths, to ban the use of chokeholds, to end no-knock warrants and to legalize marijuana.

Briskman said with Virginia law enforcement leaders condemning the death of George Floyd, a Black man who was killed by a white Minneapolis police officer, and offering recommendations to bring about reforms, she hoped the board would support the VLBC’s efforts.

“The Virginia Legislative Black Caucus has these goals that I think we as a board can make a statement that we support,” Briskman said.

Loudoun’s Board of Supervisors voted in favor of the caucus’ aim to combat racism, hold law enforcement accountable, strengthen oversight and improve transparency.

In opposing the motion, Kershner said a number of VLBC’s priorities are “highly problematic.” He said he hasn’t observed in Loudoun many of the nationwide issues and controversies surrounding law enforcement.

Letourneau said he believes some the priorities are items the board would support, but he didn’t want to endorse the proposal due to a lack of specifics.

Buffington offered a friendly amendment to remove several priorities from the board’s support, but Briskman opposed.

“We agree something’s got to change, and I think that’s an important psychological step,” Ashburn Supervisor Mike Turner (D) said. “I think the more people that get behind that kind of thing, ‘We are willing to change,’ just that simple statement — ‘We are willing to change at every level of our society’ — then I think that moves us in the right direction.”

On July 17, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D) called the General Assembly for a special session to be held Aug. 18 to adopt a budget based on the revised revenue forecast in light of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and to propose additional criminal justice and policing reform.

In April, Northam worked with legislators to “unallot,” or freeze, more than $2.2 billion in new spending in Virginia’s new biennial budget, allowing time for the commonwealth’s fiscal outlook to stabilize and in hopes of avoiding major cuts to new programs and state services.

Legislators will consider a number of items previously unalloted—including the governor’s proposed spending in early childhood education, tuition-free community college, affordable housing and improved broadband.

Loudoun’s supervisors directed county staff to bring forward state proposals deemed important for review and to poll the board once specific legislation is introduced.

That vote was 8-1, with Kershner opposed, stating he believed a vote in favor would be considered an act of supporting the agenda for the upcoming session.

(87) comments

BobOhneiserEsq

I fully support the BOS formally producing a list of priorities: Now let's see where reducing the property taxes so it is not 39% above the average in Virginia, TRAFFIC, stopping high density residential development, stop burying garbage in Loudoun, start fixing Route 15 north of Leesburg, mandate VDOT do its job, protect precious soli and farms and support rural high speed internet fits into the REAL priorities of the BOS. Make a list so we can determine if we have to wait for the next election to get anything but social signaling from this board. (LCPS should be on the list too but admittedly that is a hard issue as it is really challenging to force their version of appropriate diversity when a student is in their own home! ) :-)

amerigirl

Bob why do you always bring up taxes as if we should be paying the low taxes of rural Virginia where they don't need tax money for all the roads, schools, libraries, etc we have? People in NOVA are not giving to give up decent roads, a better education etc, to have lower taxes

AshburnRez

If the BOS keep pushing these false racial narratives, the people of Loudoun will push them out of office in the next election.

amerigirl

What part is false?

yellowbird

Ridiculous that the word Black in any article generates so many comments in these forums. Give it a break and get a life.

ace10

Irony much?

November Blue Wave

Voltaire you are the one who is disgraceful. You think it's OK for whites to disparage and deny the 400 year history of how blacks have been treated in this country? I think it's pretty obvious from his comments that scottva is white, and I can say unequivocally that his ancestor, like mine, were not enslaved or subjected to the treatment black Americans have endured here.

Voltaire

November Blue Wave—OK. Show me WHERE I made the statement that you are “alleging” that I made? The answer is that you cannot. I did not say that “…it’s OK for whites to disparage and deny the 400 year history of how blacks have been treated in this country…” Did I? No, I challenged you on the grounds that you were making an unwarranted judgment on a person’s ancestors with no credible evidence. It would appear that I am correct as you are relying on “pretty obvious” assumptions. That is NOT evidence. No, you CANNOT say what his ancestor did or did not do as you DO NOT have that information to make a credible conclusion. Furthermore, you have NO IDEA what race/nationality scottva is but are again making an assumption that, because of his diction, that he is white. That is stereotyping and that practice is wrong. Don’t give me a lecture on what is disgraceful because I am not the one who is making moral judgments without facts. That practice IS disgraceful. Get stuffed.

November Blue Wave

Voltaire. It is not because of his "diction" that I know this dude is white. It is because of the contents of comments. He is one of the many white supremacist loons who post here. You try to come across (even by your choice of moniker) as so erudite and unbiased, then you tell me to "get stuffed". I put on no such airs, and you can get bent!

Voltaire

November Blue Wave—Right. You still FAILED to disprove my statement. I am unbiased, thanks for asking. Did I “rant” about a person’s political/ethnic viewpoint? No, that is subjective conjecture by you and there is NOTHING that proves otherwise. You also failed to disprove that you are not making assumptions about one’s ancestry through the use of “contents of comments”. So, are we now going to use the field of linguistics to prove that somebody is a “white supremacist loon?” I see. Can you prove that? No, again you cannot. Yes, the factual record does support that I did tell you to get stuffed. I viewed, and continue to do so, that that phrase was an appropriate closing. BTW, nice use of “get bent”, commoner.

amerigirl

Are you guys talking about Loudoun4trump?

Voltaire

AG--I believe the post was from scottva.

Notalib

You know what? I don't care what color you is. In this country if you work hard, get educated and stay out of trouble you will make it and that includes black folks. Take your fake outrage and and go cry somewhere else. 400 years? This country was born in 1776. Slaves were freed in 1865. No one today was alive when that occured. Race relations have improved dramatically over the years but suffered a set back under guess who? Are you ready? Barack Hussein Obama!! The most divisive president in history. And dont give me the fake Narrative that Trump is. Anyone with a half a brain knows what Trump has done for the black community i.e Funding historically black colleges, opportunity zones for businesses in predominately black communities, Justice reform and low unemployment (before Covid hit) So take your fake outrage and your crocodile tears and direct your anger to where it deserves to be focused on, the Democratic party.

Notalib

Amerigirl, you're a stalker, now stop

Djfmer

What! there isn't a Virginia Legislative Caucasian Caucus? Hispanic Caucus? Korean Caucus? India Caucus? Muslim Caucus?

LetSanityPrevail

Since we are marching down the balkanization route there should be caucuses for Hispanics, Koreans, Vietnamese, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Catholics, Protestants, etc. Each of these groups have there own needs, concerns and issues. Interestingly enough in Loudoun's Asian population is nearly 18%, African American 8%, and Hispanic 14%. Seems the Asian and Hispanic communities are under represented and their voices aren't heard.

Barry Hussein

That's because of the author. He'll find any angle to find a story on how the 8% are being mistreated here in Loudoun County. Some much systemic racism to report

amerigirl

yes, they are by party. Womens caucuses too. If you understand a caucus then you would know that the majority, Caucasians who have the majority voting power doesn't need a caucus.

Notalib

Nooooo, that would be racist.

amerigirl

Do you know what a caucus is?

Notalib

But then again, as you being a member of the Democrat party, maybe you dont.

amerigirl

Not a human, stop stalking me. so needy

Loudoun4Trump

RIP B. Trammell....a black Trump supporter gunned down in Milwaukee yesterday.....just for his political views....where is BLM, Al Sharpton? I guess some black lives don't matter....the left is so angry and unhinged.......

ace10

That assassination won't even register a blip on their radar.

The victim had the wrong political affiliation. And it was a black on black crime.

Sad but true.

amerigirl

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Loudoun4Trump

So now we know a majority of supervisors are Marxists! Great, thats all we need.....racism a public health issue? Give us a break, first it would be great to find some racism instead of having the media manufacture it.....we arein 2020 and not 1960 right? we did have a black President right? that from the land of rasists? what a croc!

How can you support a puppet of Communist Russia and then call others Marxist like that's an insult. Give us a break indeed. As a veteran, I am disgusted by Trump's inability to even broach the subject of his pal Putin putting a bounty on the heads of US soldiers. You appear to have no problem reconciling that behavior with your support of the guy. Shame on you my friend. I hope you wake up someday.

More Cowbell

As a vet and someone working Intel, I'm disgusted with you and media, that continue with lies about Putin, Russia and many other debunked Intel issues. Soon, a dozen or so will be indicted for the fake Russian Dossier, which was pushed through the FISA court, even FISA judges under investigation for not bringing charges against those FBI agents.

Science Can Save Us

[citation needed]

Loudoun4Trump

Didnt Obama-Biden let russia take over Crimea? Yep.....Trump has been tougher on Russia and China than Biden who was offshoring all our jobs to China while his son picks up a billion in investment funds. As a taxpayer I am disgusted by the marxist movement within the democrat party....yes they are Marxist and do research on the founders of BLM -- they are self described Marxists!

Science Can Save Us

No one is answering the question. Why didn't Trump even bring it up when talking with Putin? It's so easy to say he's Putin's lapdog and he does absolutely nothing to disabuse us of that interpretation. Nothing. Maybe it's not that he's a traitor, just that he's deeply in hock to Russian oligarchs (which is a documented fact).

amerigirl

NOT informed about what? You seem to be the one that doesn't go for the truth but all the conspiracy theories that your leader, Putins puppet spreads.

amerigirl

L4T, so so so much BS. Do you believe that the US had the power to fight in Crimea? Shouldn’t that have been the UN? Obama put sanctions in place because of Crimea. Look at what happened with those sanctions. Trump had to please the puppet master. His claim that he was “much tougher on Russia” got 3 Pinocchios. Isn’t it strange how trump praises Putin? Allowed Russian interference in the U.S. elections? Obama was more forceful than Trump has been to date on countering election meddling. (politicfact) Pulled sanctions that were put on Russia? It was Obama who created the European Reassurance Initiative, designed to bolster forces in Europe and enhance deterrence. The administration also imposed sanctions on Russia over the incursion, building on the Magnitsky Act. Wasn’t it Flynn, under trump, that told the Russians not to immediately respond in kind and pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about those conversations? It has been trump that has been weak in responding to Russia about them paying to have our troops killed, refused to implement the sanctions as scheduled, on the grounds that the mere passage of the law had already served as a deterrent. Vlad hated the Magnitsky Act (created under Obama), which targeted high-ranking Russians with sanctions, so trump got rid of it. Just what has trump done other than approving arms sales to Ukraine? Obama ordered 35 Russian diplomats and suspected intelligence agents to leave the United States, and he also imposed narrow sanctions on some Russian individuals and organizations. Biden’s son, check out trumps daughter and her millions made in China, or the Kushner real estate deals. BLM is part of the democratic party???? Are you crazy? They are 2 separate entities that have shared interests. That is like me saying that the Boogaloo boys are part of the republican party.

amerigirl

Not, here's a challenge, show what information I am not informed on. Show anything I said that was wrong. Your opinion doesn't count on my facts. You are the one that is whining just by making that statement, I am giving facts. Dare you to try and disprove any of them.

Notalib

You need to get informed, until you do, well you can ................

Notalib

You mean Karen Bass, whose on the short list of Bidens VP Candidates?

jbsets

Do you even know what a Maxist is?

Voltaire

Jbsets--Yes, a Marxist is a follower of Marxism. Marxism is a method of socioeconomic analysis that uses a materialist interpretation of historical development, better known as historical materialism, to understand class relations and social conflict as well as a dialectical perspective to view social transformation. It originates from the works of 19th-century German philosophers Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. As Marxism has developed over time into various branches and schools of thought, there is currently no single definitive Marxist theory.

ace10

Does CAIR and La Raza know about this? They're gonna want theirs, too.

Mr Pragmatic

So this BOS supports reducing school resource officers. This is a 180 degree turn from protecting our children in school.

scottva

The BOS is a POS, IMO

LetSanityPrevail

But they will be the first to chastise the sheriff's office and LEOs if there is god forbid a shooting in the schools.

Chris McHale

Didn't vote to increase the number of resource officers within the past 12 months?

Stevens R. Miller

What a good move by this BOS. We needed a way to speak as a community to these issues. Supervisor Briskman has put her finger right on it.

Gary

This is just democratic leftism run amock

Loudoun Observer

C'mon folks. These are the people you elected. This time around we have even more Fairfax transplants (disenchanted with what the liberals have done there) that have moved here and still voting blue. I would expect them to reinstate panhandling on the median soon because Loudoun has gotten a lil too nice to be run by democrats. Per the current supported agenda, the voters chose BOS reps that want to neutralize the police, legalize drugs and condone thuggery. We'll see if the next election has caused the people of Loudoun to rethink any of this.

amerigirl

If you think all the "transplants" are the one voting blue think again. I have lived here most of my life and have had enough of the good old boys and the redneck racist ways to last a lifetime.

drttp24

The liberals on the board will continue to panther and promote their liberal socialist agenda. Ms Briskman is a perfect example.

amerigirl

Your so biased it is actually funny to read your posts, but how do they panther?

Notalib

Biased ?

I'm pot, you're kettle and you're black!!

amerigirl

Thought that up all by yourself did ya? Nope not racist at all.

Notalib

Never said you were racist, sorry for making you feel guilty.

amerigirl

No you are very racist. grow up and stick to the article[offtopic][offtopic][offtopic][offtopic]

Notalib

No, You are

Fiscalconservative

The BOS is on a slippery slope here, to keep things equal wee need a White Caucus, An Asian Caucus, a Latino Caucus etc. Government is not suppose to discriminate and that is what they are doing here by placing one group ahead of everyone else. Wither every day i become more disenchanted withe this BOS. I was hoping they would make some fair and honest changes and now I see that is not their intent nor does it ever appear it ever was. What is hard to digest is that we taxpayers are paying for this.

Loudoundad

Since whites are the majority, a white caucus would be racist. Might as well have them put a white hood on. There is nothing wrong with having a minority Caucus that focuses on and brings attention to the majority, issues facing distinct minorities.

To claim that mission is racist or discriminatory is to deny the reality minorities have different struggles than, or that their struggles need not be heard by, the majority. If you want a redheaded women's' caucus, redheads being a minority, go ahead, and I will be at every social gathering they have.

jbsets

[thumbup][smile]

jbsets

Loudoundad [smile][thumbup]

just in case someone thought I was giving a thumbs up to the upset privileged white folk who think that a black caucus is racist against the overwhelming white population.

KK153

oh... so the black caucus in NOT based on race then? I see...it's open to all races, right? cause if not, it's the very definition of racism... unless you don't consider basing membership based on race as racist...

Virginia SGP

So it's ok to have a "white students' association" in LCPS now that whites are a minority in the schools?

Is this really what we have come to.... tribal alliances?

amerigirl

The breakdown of students is LCPS students were 46% White, 23% Asian, 18% Hispanic, 8% Black/African American, and 6% Multiracial. How are they the minority?

scottva

Absurd. Anything white is racist. I agree, nothing wrong with a minority caucus, however, there are so many other minorities only "things" that the scale has been unfairly tilted. The NAACP, was a great concept for black people, today they are much more radical. Nonetheless, the NAACP has helped LCPS to create the educational roadmap. Pretty darn unfair to me. God forbid there was a white version of the NAACP, it could be made up of a bunch of liberals and still be referred to as a white supremacist group. Double standards like this are garbage.

amerigirl

eww, [sad]

Lawman

Stop whining

amerigirl

Perfect explanation, thanks

scottva

I agree with you 1000%. Seems to me that the group that has a caucus is the one who continues to cry racism. I'm rather tired of it, the term white privilege, implicit bias and racial consciousness. As a white person, there is NOTHING you can do today without being considered a racist, which means racist no longer has any real meaning.

Voltaire

Jbsets—who precisely gave the “authority” to make determinations as to whether someone’s opinion fits the “official” definition of racism? Ah, nobody. Yet, you are making character judgments based on comments on this site and NO information on the character of the individual. That is clearly wrong and bordering on discrimination. There is NO such thing as a “Federal black holiday”. Federal holidays apply to ALL citizens, regardless of nationality. Martin Luther King (MLK) Day is a Federal holiday celebrated by all citizens. Yes, there is an unofficial black anthem. "Lift Every Voice and Sing" – often referred to as the "Black national anthem" in the United States– is a song written as a poem by James Weldon Johnson (1871–1938) in 1900 and set to music by his brother J. Rosamond Johnson (1873–1954) in 1905. You are correct about bars, clubs, and other entertainment venues not being allowed to discriminate against certain groups. No, I believe that the term caucus is being used as in a political caucus. The word “caucus”, as defined in the dictionary is a “meeting of supporters or members of a specific political party or movement.” The exact definition varies between different countries. The term originated in the United States, where it can refer to a meeting of members of a political party to nominate candidates, plan policy, etc, in the United States Congress, or other similar representative organs of government. The term has also spread to certain Commonwealth countries, including Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and South Africa, where it generally refers to a regular meeting of all members of Parliament who belong to a parliamentary party. In such a context, a party caucus can be quite powerful, as it has the ability to elect or dismiss the party’s parliamentary leader. Your interpretation of why caucuses exist is subjective and wrong. Caucuses form because, as the definition implies, these supporters have common goals and interests and use this mechanism as a way to advance them through legislation and public policy. There is no “ulterior motive” that connects with the mysterious force of “privileged”. That is conspiracy talk and utter nonsense. The last statement is subjective conjecture.

amerigirl

Do you know the point of having a caucus? It is to make sure the majority knows they are there. Ohhh racist still has a real meaning, read your own comment

Voltaire

AG—No, as I stated, the point of a caucus is to gather people with common goals and interests and use interests and use this mechanism as a way to advance them through legislation and public policy. Cute, I have reviewed the definition of racism and there is NOTHING in my comment that would support your “opinion” that what I have said matches anything in that definition. Again, that statement is conjecture.

amerigirl

Volt, I was addressing scott. No I do not think you are a racist, him on the other hand.

Voltaire

AG--Got it. Sorry for the challenge.

Notalib

Those that accuse others to be racist are most likely the actual racist.

KK153

replace the word black with white

Loudoun County supervisors back Virginia Legislative White Caucus agenda

still good with that?

Hodor

It is mostly redundant to what already exists, that is usually the point of having minority interest/focus groups.

scottva

Why that would be racist. Who in the he!! do these black caucus people think they are? Privileged that's for darn sure. They should NOT have ANY say so or control over removing resource officers from schools. There is black history month, a federal black holiday, black caucuses, black TV channels, black national anthems, black colleges and universities, black bars/clubs, the NAACP, BLM and white people are the racists? Got it.

Loudoundad

To have things that are designed for minorities, used for minorities to compete among themselves, or for minorities to be entertained by faces they can identify with is NOT racist. There is a Miss Vietnamese USA pageant, there are several Hispanic radio and TV stations, and there was a Bollywood radio station here in Virginia, Your are not complaining about that. BTW, 87% of television characters on network TV last year were white, and the rest were "non white, or Hispanic." We did not have a Black TV game show host until the 1980's. All over the air network late show talk show hosts are White (Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock both wanted the slot given to Colbert).

jbsets

What you just said is racist. You just seem to think that by accepting all of the groups, days, institutions, etc., that you mention, you aren't, especially since you imply that by allowing all of that, so that should be good enough.

First, there is no Federal black holiday. I can only guess that you mean MLK Day that was originally called MLK bday. When Congress decided that several holidays didn't need to be celebrated on the exact date, they created Monday holidays to give us all long weekends. MLK bday became MLK day. Lincoln and Washington's bdays are in February (and were each their own holiday when I was a kid) were combined to become prez day. Memorial day, originally created to celebrate the service of UNION officers and soldiers who fought and died during the Civil War, was originally May 30 and now it's the last Monday in May. Labor Day was September 5 and Columbus Day was October 12.

There are songs associated with blacks and freedom and rights. I have not heard an official black national anthem. Maybe there is one that is played at black only events. Not black so I wouldn't know.

You realize that there are tons of caucuses. There are too many to list (like HUNDREDS) so see the link below. Some of them of them had me laughing like the Algae Caucus, Auto Care Caucus, and Bourbon Caucus (I didn't make it past the Bs.) Many are directly related to specific religions, ethnic groups, gender, age, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucuses_of_the_United_States_Congress

There are no longer any clubs or bars that bar any group protected from discrimination by the Constitution. That includes excluding whites. I remember as a kid that their were country clubs that didn't allow blacks or Jews. There were also so many clubs/groups that didn't allow women. There are plenty of bars and clubs (dancing and golf/sports) that cater to certain populations, such as a motorcycle bar or gay club. It's up to you if you are comfortable and want to stay. By law, unless you are causing trouble, you can't be ejected.

Caucuses exist because the privileged make things difficult or don't allow certain groups, mostly to have the same rights or at least to exercise them. Other caucuses exist to champion or research a cause. I should research the Bourbon Caucus.

You sound like someone who is part of white privilege

November Blue Wave

Poor white scottva is so oppressed. When were your ancestors enslaved, lynched, forced to use separate and inferior schools, hotels, fountains, restaurants, bathrooms, just to name a few? I am white, and my ancestors were poor immigrants, but they darn sure weren't subjected to what African Americans have suffered.

Virginia SGP

What are you talking about? Arsenio Hall had a show. Trevor Noah has a show. How many shows are you counting? Blacks only represent 1/8 of the population. One might suggest Hispanics have a better claim.

Voltaire

November Blue Wave—How do you know what poster scottva’s ancestors were and how they were “subjected to”? You don’t but that doesn’t stop you from making unwarranted an assumption that is predicated with nothing that barely qualifies as evidence, now does it? That is simply wrong and disgraceful, to put it mildly.

Voltaire

Virginia SGP—I would argue that Hispanics have their fair share of the television market. There are multiple shows that feature Hispanic actors and actresses on various networks, traditional (CBS, NBC, and ABC) and cable. An example would be Mario Lopez who is a host on TV’s “Extra”. There is also the TV network Univison that caters to Hispanics.

Notalib

Scott, I'm with you man. I got it 1000%. It seems to me with the statistics someone posted about LCPS that whites are now a minority whereas the minorities are now the majority. Sounds l Iike if may be time to start a White Caucus.

Notalib

November Wave., as bad as that stuff was that you mentioned it's been gone now for over a half century, slavery has been over 155 years. Why all of a sudden the outrage? A lot of progress had been made. It seems to me the some in the black minority want to segregate again, with their own organizations, Caucuses and now their own National Anthem. We are suppose to be one people and one country. We need to start acting that way. Black lives do matter, but everyones life matters as well. We are all Americans, not Black American, not White Americans, not Asian American, Hispanic American or Indian Americans. We are just Americans and remember, a person should be judged by their character not by the color of their skin.

Haven't we sort of worked through that agenda since 1619?

amerigirl

If you think the majority needs to have a voice so they won't be overlooked by the minorities, oh wait they won't carry the vote.

amerigirl

What would a white caucus do, caucus themselves? Minorities and special interest have caucuses that caucus (represent the position of) to the majority. To be still good with that the whites would need to be a minority. Are you still good with that?

Notalib

Amerigirl, you just need to work hard and get ahead and stop.your whining and complaining

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