Coronavirus daily count rate as of May 14, 2020

Six more Loudoun County residents have died as a result of COVID-19, state health officials reported on Thursday, bringing the county's total number of the coronavirus-related deaths to 44.

The age breakdown of the deceased is as follows: 33 have been 80 years old or older, seven have been between the ages of 70 and 79, three have been between the ages of 60 and 69, and one between 50 and 59.

Loudoun County's confirmed COVID-19 cases stand at 1,339 on Thursday, according to the latest figures reported by the state. The case count increased by 56 from Wednesday's reporting and is up 269 from May 8 figures. 131 people in Loudoun have been hospitalized.

Statewide, the number of cases on Thursday jumped by 1,067 to 27,813 cases. 3,592 hospitalizations have occurred, and 165,486 people have been tested.

Virginia residents can search case and testing information by ZIP code through the county's website.

In Loudoun, an effort is being made to open up part of the county by three county supervisors. A "reopen march" is also scheduled for Friday from 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. in Leesburg.

The Loudoun County School Board during its Tuesday meeting voted to provide individual learning devices for kindergarten through second-grade students if distance learning continues next fall.

As a result of the pandemic, the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors will soon consider revising its lease agreement with DC Sports Entertainment Facilities, LLC for the Bolen Park Stadium and Training Center, home to minor league soccer team Loudoun United.

Outside of Loudoun, black lawmakers in Virginia oppose Gov. Ralph Northam’s (D) plans to begin reopening most of the state on Friday. Lawmakers said the state does not have the proper testing capacity and infrastructure for a safe opening and that many workers who are minorities will be placed at unfair risk.

“Throughout our country’s history, black and brown people have been experimented on and used as unwilling test subjects before — we cannot allow that to be repeated here,” the letter from the Virginia Legislative Black Caucus said.

On Tuesday, Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax (D) proposed creating a statewide COVID-19 Racial Disparities Task Force focused on taking action to aggressively addressing and finding a remedy for the increasing coronavirus cases among African-American and LatinX communities.

More information about the coronavirus and how to prevent its spread can be found at CDC.gov/Coronavirus and Loudoun.gov/coronavirus.

Coronavirus update as of May 14, 2020

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(109) comments

Jeanne T

So here's a novel idea for physical distancing going forward. What do "ya'll" think? It can't be any worse than the woman who was spotted in a local Wegman's with a tape measure fastened to her head. LOL

From CNN:

(CNN) — A cafe in Germany has celebrated its grand reopening to customers after lockdown by handing out pool noodles to maintain social distancing.

Last Saturday the owners of the Cafe Rothe in Schwerin — a town in German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s home state of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania — were allowed to reopen their doors to visitors after coronavirus restrictions were lifted.

While people enjoyed the company and the weather, the motto at the cafe was: “Keep the social distance.”

Rather than using floor markings and perspex screens to keep people apart, the owners of the cafe distributed straw hats with two colorful swimming noodles attached to the top.

To mark the occasion, owner Jaqueline Rothe posted a photo to the cafe’s Facebook page showing customers sitting at tables with their new headgear on.

“Today it’s like this: distance measurement,” she wrote in the caption.

Rothe, 52, told CNN numerous happy customers flocked to the cafe to enjoy a coffee, cake or a beer in the sunshine.

Jeanne T

The Germans are very.........."innovative."

amerigirl

An d have much better number at flattening the curve than we do. Whatever works.

amerigirl

So what is your novel idea? Do you have one? I’d love to hear it. I love the term "ya'll". Use it all the time. Those were pretty novel ideas; people are making the best of it by having fun with it. Cute, I thought the dinosaur suits wee funny too. If that’s how people cope they should go for it. No matter what network covers it. Fox has had some good ones too. Like the homemade facemasks made from cut plastic bottles,

Jeanne T

Speaking of Germany, as reported today in Die Welt, it seems the German people aren't very happy with the corona virus regulations either, with thousands demonstrating across the country. Berlin, Munich (beautiful city, one of my favorites), Hamburg, Stuttgart (never been there, but they have a fabulous ballet company, and if I had the money I would fly there just to take in their production of Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet), Frankfurt, Koblenz, Cologne (been there, too), several cities in Brandenburg, Potsdam.

amerigirl

Yes and they had to warn the people "that conspiracy theorists and others with an agenda were exploiting frustration with measures to contain the pandemic". Germany has been easing restrictions and had a surge.The protests were mounted in part by proponents of conspiracy theories blaming everyone from vaccine makers to billionaire software tycoon and philanthropist Bill Gates for the disease. People driven by misinformation and anger, sounds a lot like this country.

misslyn

Reading the comments on this site has convinced me that 1. I'll never comment again and from the replies I'm sure you are cheering 2. Too many Americans have drank the koolaid. Maybe too much Fox News. They believe the lies.

I sincerely hope all of you who have basically said Covid-19 is a hoax dreamed up by Democrats stay well and our country survives the pandemic.

Jeanne T

"I sincerely hope all of you who have basically said Covid-19 is a hoax dreamed up by Democrats"

Who said COVID is a "hoax"? Certainly not me.

amerigirl

President Trump says that Democrats are using the coronavirus as a “hoax” to damage him and his administration.“The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus,” he said from a campaign rally in North Charleston, South Carolina.Fox Business Network’s Trish Regan called it a “Coronavirus Impeachment Scam,”. as did Hannity, all changed their tunes when Fox was sued.There is some law about spreading misinformation furring a crisis. As did Rush Limbaugh and other right wing hosts.

pual mase

Trump called the democrats attacking the administration’s coronavirus response as the next hoax . And he was right. They twist his words to claim he called the virus a hoax. They lied about russian collusion and Ukraine and now corona virus response.

amerigirl

Pual. Yes, during a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also downplayed the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu. Then he patted himself on the back and said he was doing a great job. HAH! Doesn’t this sound like someone trying to cover his but who knew that he had disbanded the National Security Council's pandemic response team in May 2018, failed to follow the recommended strategies are among hundreds of tactics and key policy decisions laid out in a 69-page National Security Council playbook on fighting pandemics, which he shelved. The administration has also failed to meet the goals laid out in its own pandemic plan, which was developed in the first year of Trump’s presidency and released in December 2017. Trump said “Nobody ever expected a thing like this,” But Trump’s aides were told to expect a potential pandemic, ranging from a tabletop exercise that the outgoing Obama administration prepared for the president’s incoming aides to a “Crimson Contagion” scenario that health officials undertook just last year and modeled out potential risks of a global infectious disease threat. Trump’s deputies also have said that their coronavirus response relies on a federal playbook, specifically referring to a strategy laid out by the Centers for Disease Control. Isn’t that the words of a man that knew he had cut funding as in 2018, as the White House focused on eliminating funding to Obama-era disease security programs, to fight pandemics. He was just trying to cover that fat butt of his.

amerigirl

Missy, you are entitled to your opinion here and you should make it. Unfortunately there are some ultra-conservatives here that think they gain power by bullying their 'opponents'. They really feel the need to belittle and name call, please ignore them, they are bullies and don't let them get away with bulling someone else into submission.

Jeanne T

amerigirl, it is one thing to say that some are using this crisis as a political weapon, and quite another to say that COVID itself is a "hoax". Regarding the first, it is an opinion that can be debated. Regarding the second statement, that is ridiculous. To call COVID a hoax is saying it doesn't exist. We all know that it does.

Come, let us reason together.

amerigirl

I don't believe I never said it was a hoax. I repeated what trump said at his rally in SC. Some of the ult-right radio heads have said that but there is no point in continuing their conspiracy theories. Maybe you should also see some of the accusations that his son Eric is making, that COVID-19 social distancing measures are part of a "cognizant strategy" for Democrats to win the 2020 election, he thinks arenas aren’t open so that dems can stop trump from having rally’s. That. the coronavirus is a political hoax that will 'magically' disappear after the election.

Jeanne T

"Illness is not political." No, of course not. But politicians can be political in how they propose to deal with this. Never forget that all politicians have agendas. So do scientists in white lab coats. So does big pharma. And others. Especially if these might have a financial stake in proposed treatments.

amerigirl

All the people were following the recommendations until trump started with his "liberate" tweets, after complaining that his great economy was gone.Just because trump wants everyone to hate Fauci because he wouldn't go along with what trump wanted and spoke the truth, does not mean that after all these years of public service he doesn't know what is best. Governors of both parties issued Executive orders but now it's a liberal thing? Who had a high stake in treatments other than Kushner? The treatments have to be tested and result have to be filed before they can be approved. The only one who has pushed treatments is trump with his hydroxychloroquine, but what could happen? People died. Then he went for the bleach and disinfectant injections. Do you trust that advise over Fauci's?

Jeanne T

"have any of you paid attention to the scientists? If the United States had taken action in January the damage would have been less."

January 2020:

1/21/20: "This is not a major threat for the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about." Dr. Anthony Fauci, Newsmax

1/26/20: "The American people should not be worried of frightened by this. It's a very, very low risk to the United States. It isn't something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about." Dr. Fauci, on "The Cats Roundtable" with John Catsimatidis, podcast. 1/26/20, quoted at Fox News.

1/29/20: "President Donald J. Trump announced the formation of the President's Coronavirus Task Force ... [to] lead the Administration's efforts to monitor, contain, and mitigate the speed of the virus, while ensuring that the American people have the most accurate and up-to-date health and travel information.” WhiteHouse.gov. Meanwhile, the Democrats and the media were 100 percent focused on impeachment; this was the same day ABC6 News reported; "Democrats Say Americans Want Witnesses at Trump Impeachment Trial."

1/31/20: [To protect Americans] from the threat of this harmful communicable disease, I have determined......to restrict and suspend the entry into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of all aliens who were physically present within the People's Republic of China...preceding their entry or attempted entry into the united Stats...[and we] should take all necessary and appropriate measures to facilitate...quarantine fo persons allowed to enter the United States who may have been exposed to this virus." President Donald Trump, Whitehouse.gov

1/31/20: "This is no time for Donald Trump's record of hysteria and xenophobia - hysterical xenophobia - and fear mongering to lead the way instead of science. - Joe Biden, campaigning in Madison, IA, reacting to Trump's travel restrictions to Asia, Reuters

February 2020:

2/29/20: "Today our city is celebrating the Lunar New Year parade in Chinatown, a beautiful cultural tradition with a rich history in our city. I want to remind everyone to enjoy the parade and not change any plans due to misinformation spreading about coronavirus." - Oxiris Barbor, New York City health commissioner, on Twitter

2/29/20: That's what we are trying to do today is to say everything is fine here." - Nancy Pelosi, hugging locals in San Francisco's Chinatown and urging people to visit, NBC Bay Area News

2/29/20: "No. Right now, at this moment, there's no need to change anything that you're dong on a day by day basis. Right now the risk is still low." - Dr. Fauci, asked on NBC's "Today" if people "want to go to malls, and movies, and maybe the gym, as well.....[s]hould we be changing our habits?" quoted at Breitbart

March 2020:

3/2/20: "This isn't our first rodeo.....Excuse our arrogance as New Yorkers....we think we have the best health care system on the planet right here in New York....we don't even think it's going to be as bad as it was in other countries." - Gov. Andrew Cuomo, after the first New Yorker was diagnosed with the coronavirus after her flight from Qatar, in the New York Times. Cuomo said investigators would track down every person on the patient's flight, but it never happened.

"Since I'm encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives [and] get out on the town despite Coronavirus, I thought I would offer some suggestions.....go see 'The Traitor,'" - Bill de Blasio, New York City Mayor, on Twitter

3/9/20: If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason if you want to go on a cruse ship, go on a cruise ship." - Dr. Fauci, White House press conference, Forbes, 3/9/20

3/11/20: "If you are not sick......you should be going about your life." - Mayor de Blasio, NYC.gov

3/25/20: "[We] welcome people from across the globe. We have people coming here, we have people who came here from China, who came here from Italy, who came here from countries all around the globe. We have international travelers who were in China, and who were in Italy, and who were in Korea and who came here." - Gov. Cuomo, press conference, Rev.com

3/26/20: Dr. Fauci co-authors a study in The New England Journal of Medicine concluding that COVID-19 may be more akin to influenza (with a fatality rate of .1 percent) than a more serious disease like SARS or MERS.

amerigirl

Did you look at when these statements were made? Did you look at how they lined up with the coronavirus?

1/21/20. Is not what the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about." Dr. Anthony Fauci. Was that same day we had our first case. Why would you worry prematurely?

1/26/20. And it would have remained low risk if procedures were followed. But at that time there were only a few cases and nobody had died

1/29/20 What does impeachment have to do with it? He knew that the senate said they would not convict before the evidence was even presented.

1/31/20 But he didn’t stop travel in to the US, only from china, by then it was in Australia, Japan, Singapore, South Korea, Spain and Vietnam. That’s closing the gate after the horse got out.

1/31/20. Exactly right it was not the time for trump to be promoting his hate for China. Have you seen how he spits out that word? As a result, people were abusing Chinese Americans. They are American citizens that were getting beaten, spit on and called every name in the book for their heritage. That was a general statement and had nothing to do with air travel

2/29/20 The first case in NYC was identified on February 28, that 1 person was quarantined and did not attend the Lunar New Year parade in Chinatown. I don’t see a problem there.

2/29/20 Fauci was right at that time the risk was low. There ware 60 cases in the US and many of them came from the cruise ship Diamond Princess. I noticed you put that he conveyed that statement twice.

2/29/20 Pelosi visited China town, there were zero cases in San Francisco.

3/2/20 Really NYC and NJ with the amount od international travel they had didn’t stand a chance All wishful thinking aside he probably really thought that way. My question was why wasn’t air travel from Europe and the middle east stopped by then? It should have been. The strain of virus that is hitting all the east coast came from Europe.

3/2/20, still only 66 cases including those from the cruise ship Diamond Princess.

3/25/20 Was it talking about the current situation or in general about NYC? I don’t trust the site because my security system warned me.

3/26/20 we can only hope, but you left out the part: as the authors point out, the study faces the limitation associated with reporting.

Jeanne T

"Did you look at when these statements were made? Did you look at how they lined up with the coronavirus?"

LOL, yes, of course, amerigirl. Why do you think I posted the timeline? Furthermore the timeline was a direct response to the question in quotes above the timeline, posted by someone in this thread.

Nevertheless, I have no doubt that I have, once again, posted in vain. And that there is a far deadlier disease among the populace than COVID-19.

Jeanne T

"I don’t trust the site because my security system warned me."

No doubt. Who needs to think and investigate when you have a "security system" warning you?

amerigirl

Jeanne, so you saw the time line but you don't understand the response? I don’t understand your statement, why would you think that those statements were inappropriate t the times they were said? I’m sure there are far more deadly diseases in the populace, but this is the one that is affecting the populace at the time.

Please tell me that you have some kind of protection on your computer. Some way of protecting it from viruses and trojan horses? Yes that site came up as a site with a warning.

Jeanne T

"But I know of a person who had to leave her home for cancer treatments which were showing great progress. They expected her to go into remission because the tumor had shrunk so much. She contracted the virus and died last week. How would you count her?"

How would I count her? I wouldn't. I can't. I'm neither a doctor nor a medical examiner, amerigirl. We don't ask non-medical persons to make determinations on a death certificates, and you know that. Bro your question is moot. However, since this woman was in treatment for cancer, we know that she already had a weakened immune system and, possibly, other co-morbidities, like many of the elderly. So while I will guess that COVID might have been listed as a contributing factor, it probably was not the primary cause. What did you hear about it?

amerigirl

Jeanne. Exactly what I am saying. There are so many people that think that just because someone has a pre-existing condition that it wasn’t the virus they died from. She wasn’t elderly and nothing else was wrong with her, and her doctor thought she would make a full recovery. Yes, the Covid was the primary cause. This is a wife of one of the people who my husband works with. He was very careful too. He had clothes and wipes in the garage, always entered that way and changed, washed his hands and face before entering the house. He did all his own laundry, he was remarkably responsible.

BLT

Yup, that darn Fauci caused this problem. Now granted he can't set national policy and he's not the President and if he were as bad as you say, surely Trump would have corrected for his failings...but you and I both know this is nonsense and we all know where the problem lies...and we know how to fix it come November...if we live that long.

pual mase

Well done Jeanne T.

Happy to see AG and BLT flailing when confronted with real facts. Their revisionist lies are so pathetic.

amerigirl

A little premature on that, other things also?

misslyn

I would not insult you or your family. I wasn't raised that way. I hope you and your family are safe and well.

misslyn

I have no intention of insulting you or your family, that's not how I was raised. I grew up poor in Iowa. I hope you are correct and it all goes away. As a matter of fact I hope you and your family are safe and well.

HistoryProf

I read the comments of those who say we should open things back up and even though they congratulate themselves on their sense of liberty and freedom and accuse those who disagree of timidity or worse, liberal conspiracies to defeat the current administration at the polls in November, I see something else. Thinking of the pain and suffering previous generations of Americans endured for the good of the nation--the sacrifices and rationing during World War II come to mind--I see a bunch whiners, upset that they have been inconvenienced while a pandemic is loose in the world. Get over yourself. Your sense of entitlement isn't to be admired and your selfishness, combined with the careless actions of those who think like you, could combine to spell the end of this country. You think it's falling apart now, you can't imagine what happens if it spreads faster and more deeply in the population. Thankfully, based on recent polling, 75%+ of Americans get it. But that still leaves 25% ignoring basic science which is a danger to 100% of us.

pual mase

FYI polls are not science. Neither are models that have consistently overestimated the impact of the pandemic.

Ignoring economics is ignorant.

It is also rich to accuse of of entitlement and selfishness when you drive millions to unemployment, poverty and despair so you can indulge your need need not to feel scared.

amerigirl

First it is actually called a scientific (nonbiased public) opinion poll, poll for short.

The key factor that dictates whether a poll is scientific or not is whether the group who is surveyed is selected randomly. Polls in which people choose to participate, such as Internet polls, are not scientific.

Models are central to what scientists do. models are central to the process of knowledge-building in science.

Ignoring a pandemic is ignorance at it’s best when you can see the global effect it has had on people.

Maybe you should not be so afraid of the economic effects, nobody wants to see the economy go down but it is expected during a crisis. It affects all of us. Of course, if people go back to work and ignore the warnings there is a really good chance that the virus will start up again and we all will have to go through this again. How will that effect the economy? If any one is feeling scared it is the people freaking out about their financial losses. They want it all now instead of doing the right thing and waiting until it is safer.

hardworkingamerican

OK misslyn go back to your make-believe CNN, MSNBC talking points and put your mask back on. Your talking points are invalid. You have no idea of what is actually going on in the world. Try turning your whatever you have to something other than FAKE NEWS. Pathetic. You do not know what the science is, you have no idea. Ladies and Gentlemen if you want your life back and not this Socialist Communist regime then we must work together to oust every single Democrap and all those that want to continue to harm America. Your facts which are false, as anyone who watches CNN or is a parrot of the radical Communist, are false. Go back and put your mask back on. Pathetic. Obama is the most corrupt President int he history of America and now that it is in full display his pure evil everyone wants to focus on something else. Thank God for Donald J Trump. By the way misslyn, you just made me a multi-billionaire, because Trump helped me, my son, my daughter and my wife and I "biggly" because of his actions. And believe me, I am, nor is my family not the 1%. I'm sure you will have some smart, you know what, comment to insult me or my family. Try talking to the political idiots on the take here in Loudoun County, and of course "Coonman". They are the true threat to America

amerigirl

Wow the guy who post every conspiracy theory in the right wing radio world had told someone that they have no idea of what is actually going on in the world. The leader of the real fake news has spoken. Work, you doesn’t believe science, if you really did he would understand why this is a pandemic. Everything is a plot by the liberals to you, there is something seriously wrong with that. Get help! You say that her facts are wrong and assume that she watches CNN when that information has been on every major news station, but you probably don’t watch real news, right? You show nothing but anger and aggression with your post instead of debating the issues, stick to the agenda and stop the personal attacks.

Jeanne T

How do you know what is being said on "right wing radio" unless you are spending time listening to it?

amerigirl

Jeanne. You think that some of the allegations aren't so bizarre they don't make the news?

Jeanne T

"You think that some of the allegations aren't so bizarre they don't make the news?"

Did I say that? No, amerigirl, I didn't. And I don't think that either. You didn't answer my question. If you're not actually listening to "right wing" radio in real time, then I assess from your answer that you're relying instead on other news sources to tell you what was said. And so how do you know that it is accurate? I do not assume such.

Jeanne T

amerigirl, we keep the TV in the basement and off except to watch the livestream service rom our church on Sunday. We may just drop cable TV altogether, since I can watch the church service on Facebook or YouTube. So I guess I'm not watching ANY of the news, fake or otherwise. Too bad I'm missing all the "sitcoms", which would surely expand my worldview. What do you think of that? LOL

amerigirl

Jeanne, it is your prerogative to not watch TV. Personally, I like to watch the evening news. I think you took the question wrong that I was asking. What I meant by the question was don’t you think some of those wild allegations show up and are verified or unverified on the news? It was in response to you asking me about right wing radio. I’m glad you don’t watch it, most of it is trash anyway from the reporting I have seen. When they verify stories, they name their sources, many have the audio of those responses. That is how I know they are accurate. I don’t assume much either and can be very skeptical.

misslyn

Wow, have any of you paid attention to the scientists? If the United States had taken action in January the damage would have been less. We might even have reopened by now. We do not have adequate testing yet, or PPE, contact tracing or quarantine measures. And, the comments about let those old people die makes me wonder what has happened to my beloved America. On social security and medicare did you know they are payroll deductions. The deficit has been increased with serious tax cuts for the 1% and corporations. They are the ones who are getting welfare. It's okay for them to benefit but not the 20% plus Americans that are not working because of the pandemic or the businesses that are suffering because of the shutdown. If we are at war with the virus we need to step up and help those that do not have money to feed their families and for small businesses that need help. Maybe take a lesson from Franklin Roosevelt. Maybe have a plan. Where is the leadership at the national level. Our governors could use some help.

ace10

Please point out the comments which state or imply or support the notion of "let[ting] those old people die."

amerigirl

Any comment that says older people should shelter in place when everyone know that older people have more health issues and need to see doctors or have treatments.

ace10

How about you stay out of something that doesn't have anything to do with you?. The commenter made a SPECIFIC reference. I asked for examples.

amerigirl

Ace how about you not telling people not to comment in a comment section? It is a public forum, so too bad![tongue]

scottva

@misslyn, have YOU paid attention the the scientists? The very scientists you reference were saying in January and all the way up to February 29th that Americans don't have anything to worry about, go about your lives as usual and oh, that whole person to person transmission thing, yeah, they also said not to worry about that. The head "expert" or scientist in charge is Fauci. He was the key mouth piece that told us not to worry.

As far as federal and state leaders go, this is what happens when you have government involved in running things and yet people still want more and bigger government.

amerigirl

Have you looked at the timeline of when and where the virus was in the US then?

Jeanne T

Yes. So this isn't about "the timeline of when and where the virus was in the US then." It's about the timeline of things being said here in the U.S. by Dr. Fauci, Gov. Cuomo, Bill de Blasio, the NYC health commissioner, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, et.al., from 1/21/20 through as late as 3/26/20.

amerigirl

Biden, Nancy Pelosi, et.al., from 1/21/20 through as late as 3/26/20.

Jeanne, not well explained, please be more specific on who said what. Especially since you have the 1/21 date and that was the date of the very first person that got it in the US.

Jeanne T

scottva, I've come to the conclusion that it is a useless endeavor to try and reason with some people, especially in a public forum, a total waste of time. For example, the timeline I posted was in direct response to a poster who was critical of something not being done "in January". She asked: “have any of you paid attention to the scientists? If the United States had taken action in January the damage would have been less." Yet, when I posted the timeline, which began in January, I got this response from another poster: "Did you look at when these statements were made? Did you look at how they lined up with the coronavirus?" (She repeated this to another poster.) This same poster had previously noted that 1/21 “was the date of the very first person that got it in the US”. So should we acted upon this information in January, or not? And if we were late to the party, why was the esteemed Dr. Fauci telling us in January, that we had nothing to be concerned about? Why did he continue that narrative until as late as February 29 by saying, "Right now, at this moment, there's no need to change anything that you're dong on a day by day basis. Right now the risk is still low."

Furthermore, when the opinion that this crisis is being politicized is considered tantamount to the false idea that COVID-19 is a "hoax", there is a now problem that can no longer be remedied by reasoned dialogue. And that problem is, as Hannah Arendt said, a "curious, but quite authentic, inability to think."

Loudoun Observer

Some sad (and largely false) talking points copied from a Bernie speech.

amerigirl

Jeanne, Anthony Fauci is a Physician who does research not a scientist. The reason he hasn’t seen patients is that he is so good that he was asked to join the CDC during the Reagan administration. He has been through republican and democratic presidents who have all respected him and his work. Admired enough that he received The Presidential Medal of Freedom. The only president that has had issues with him is trump because Fauci tell the truth and won’t go along with trumps agenda. If you want to use right-wing slurs for him that just lowers your credibility. The masks, which many of the people posting here say they won’t wear, are to keep the spread minimal. If everyone went by the rules including washing their hands we wouldn’t still be in this mess. Making racial slurs about the virus is what gets other Americas harmed. Do you know how many Asian Americans whose families many have been here for centuries have been attacked form people like you promoting a hate for them? The are just as American as you are so do you believe they deserve to be treated that way?

Jeanne T

Ah, the scientists. The ones in the white coats that don't see patients? Like Anthony Fauci, who hasn't seen a patient in 20 years and whose nickname is "the Bernie Madoff of science"? That kind of scientist?

Besides, the masks are supposed to protect us and prevent ChinaVirus19 from spreading. If they work, why do businesses need to close? If they don't work, why should we wear them? I'll give ya a minute......

More Cowbell

Our Gov are failing the people, they decide at state level. You're just worried that the Dems lost(or will lose) 100K votes due to deaths in CA and NY.

hardworkingamerican

How can our Governor or anyone that supports him talk about race or caring about anyone or anything, when he is a staunch supporter of the KKK and blackface moon walking with that "hard to get off" shoe polish. These are "his words" not mine. It is politics, all from the Democraps. Just like now we know the efforts of Obama and Biden to overthrow a President. All political and they used the FBI, CIA, NSA and others. Obama should be in solitary confinement. The lowest African American unemployment in the History of America, Thank you Donald Trump for doing that and for exposing the deep state. All of you who are going to throw out your fake facts, just don't. CNN and others hopefully will be sharing a cell with Comey and others. If you want to help people who you say, "you care about" then make sure they can make a living. Again, being safe is a choice we all make. Idiots with masks and gloves are not protecting anyone. It just makes them act stupid because they think they have a Fauci, shield around them, which is about absurd as Fauci supporting China. Only one choice, those that want to take your right away to live and prosper must GO!!!

drymillrd

As of May 14 there have been 44 deaths in Loudoun allegedly from Covid-19. Only 1 of those 44 was under the age 60. Why are schools and businesses still closed? Why are we not targeting the older population, protecting them as best as we can (or let them have control of their own lives to live as they like). These are fair and reasonable questions. Meanwhile our businesses, kids, and families are getting crushed. This timidity in aggressively opening things back up has to stop.

amerigirl

Because deaths are not the only thing that count. Would you really want kids back in school when it has been shown how rapidly it runs through buildings? Now kids are getting that syndrome similar to Kawasaki disease and some are dying. The biggest problem they have had with spread is contact and it looks like there are enough people in this county willing to wear masks or socially distance. The second is believed to be using a shard system like heating/AC in buildings such as apartments, nursing homes, factories etc.

gtrunner

We shouldn’t move the goalposts of mitigation. Hospitalization rates are the crux of the issue. The 5 benchmarks have little to directly do with death. They are all about keeping the positivity rate low, hospitalization manageable and enough PPE.

scottva

It's probably best if we remain locked down until there's a cure. Just like the cure for cancer and AIDS. Wait, there is no cure for cancer and AIDS. Now if we only regulated the consumption of alcohol we would have less alcohol related fatalities. While we're at it, all cars should only be able to go a max of 55 MPH and we can reduce car accidents. This is the same warped mindset that believes Gun Free Zones will stop bad guys and gun violence, after all, there's a sign saying Gun Free Zone", bad guys wouldn't want to break the law.

pual mase

AG you ignore the primary reason for the lockdowns was to slow the spread so our health systems were not overwhelmed and buy time for preparation.

I expect you will refute this a usual lie but we all know it to be true.

It was never understood that lockdowns would be able to avoid infections or death, just delay them. It was never understood that lockdowns could bridge us to a vaccine which may never come.

It is also ironic that you support lockdowns while pointing out that indoor HVAC systems could be a factor in spread of the virus.

And you continue to ignore extremely low infection rates for young people while harpoon the few , admitably tragic, problems some kids have had.

No wonder no one takes you seriously.

amerigirl

No pual, you continuously ignore the fact that the primary reason for lockdowns was to contain the virus.

Why would they stop fights or stop those people from moving around the country? Why did they leave people on cruise liners? Why do they tell you to self-isolate if you have been in contact? WSJ, says lockdowns are “restrictions imposed to slow the spread of the new coronavirus. As Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, said in the Senate hearings., and that Americans would experience “needless suffering and death” if the country opens up too quickly. The purpose of a lockdown, explains a new study from the Imperial College London COVID-19 Response Team, is to reduce reproduction – in other words, to reduce the number of people each confirmed case infects. GAVI; Since the new coronavirus can spread unnoticed so easily, many governments have felt the best way to ensure people have minimal contact with each other is to order total lockdowns. CBS; To prevent the spread of coronavirus, states and municipalities have issued shelter-in-place orders. Time; “stay at home” order in an attempt to prevent the further spread of COVID-19.

There is nothing that people can do about their air system, at least their neighbors aren’t coughing in their faces. Where are they going to go? How do you know the infection rate of young people? You know the death rate for young people but it looks like the infection rate is much higher. Children are getting it, young adults are getting strokes from it. The people at my husbands work that got it 3 were under 25.

Making remarks against me personally like that last line just proves how small you are.

pual mase

Alarmist BS is not a reason to destroy businesses and send millions to unemployment and food lines.

amerigirl

Paul being an alarmist about the economy is not the way to handle it. Heed the warning, open when safe. Not just raise the number of deaths so you can open up and try to justify it that way. It is a crisis, people are already in food lines, but at least they aren’t sick or dead so they can be in those lines.

Countyrez

AMEN!

hockey4all

Cancer is not contagious. The spread of AIDS can be largely mitigated due to not sharing needles/safe sex.

This is an absurd comparison.

Virginia SGP

This is all about a bunch of big-gov't, liberal politicians crushing the private sector workers and about the elderly dumping even more crushing debt on their kids, grandkids, and great grandkids. The notion that elderly citizens who are not even working get $1200 in stimulus checks to be paid by the generations they are crushing with this lockdown might be the most selfish, greedy act I have ever seen. It even surpasses the greed of LCPS employees and that is very hard to do.

amerigirl

wrong, this is about the fact that there is a pandemic. Illness is not political. The debt has taken enormous strides since trump became president to make his numbers look good. So if that is what you are basing it on then it was already an ongoing thing. I agree I have no idea why I (retired) or my husband (essential worker) got that money. Poor poor planing.That's why people should give it to charitable organizations that will get food and supplies to those who really need it right now. Most of our money went that way and it would have been all if my husbands salary hadn't been cut by 50%. What makes you think that the bipartisan move was done by liberals? It was the republicans that took out the safeguards that the dems put in place to direct the money where it was needed.

amerigirl

Cow, is it only the people that die that count? If you had a number of people that have gotten sick would that matter? It is not political. It wasn’t political until trump made it that way. It is also republicans that agree with staying cosed, in fact the only group in the polls that wanted to open were conservatives, not just libs, & dems, but repubs too, so why are you blaming just dems?

More Cowbell

Left off 70% or more that died in Loudoun were in nursing homes/retirement homes, which is where the process has failed. Dems have decided it's best to keep most shutdown and harm the economy. And then ask for more relief money, like $6-10K for a family of 5. Still wondering why kids under 17/16 should get any money from federal govt? They're not out of work? And since everything is shutdown, food is the only expense.

Jeanne T

Perhaps we should rename the Loudoun-Times Mirror to the COVID19-Times Mirror.

amerigirl

???????? A local paper giving local updates during a pandemic???????????

scottva

I'm guessing you believe the same for NYT and Washington Post

Jeanne T

It's humor, amerigirl. Humor.

springerdad

Please don't print this LTM. There will be many posters here that will never leave their house again. We might as well close the world down forever.

From the BBC.

The coronavirus "may never go away", the World Health Organization (WHO) has warned.

Speaking at a briefing on Wednesday, WHO emergencies director Dr Mike Ryan warned against trying to predict when the virus would disappear.

He added that even if a vaccine is found, controlling the virus will require a "massive effort".

pual mase

Of course, we see the black caucus and lt gov Fairfax seemed my racism in the pandemic.

When you see the world through a racial lens everything is black or white.

The experts have been clear that the virus is indifferent to race but certain populations have higher rates of underlying conditions like diabetes, obesity and heart diseases which makes them more vulnerable to the virus.

And it is also logical, though not proven, that certain populations may have be more prone to occupations that may ncrease exposure to the virus.

I can only guess the true motive for these claim s and studies but seems like an unfortunate distraction.

amerigirl

Very sad If it was your race that was more at risk would you want something done? The virus is indifferent, too bad the risks aren’t. It’s not just underlying conditions, it is that many jobs are more high risk than others. Such is the true motive but you have twisted it into a race thing.

pual mase

Come again.AG?...... ...the disparity of outcomes by race is pretty definitely concluded to be a result of underlying conditions that may be exasperated by employment disparities.

The black caucus and Fairfax are making it a “race thing “.

It may serve their political agenda but is a divisive distraction.

scottva

EVERYTHING is about race therefore NOTHING is about race. The at risk health problems were identified in black people long ago, wouldn't you want something done about it? Ban them from fast food restaurants, buying snacks, alcohol, etc. and then maybe the at risk stats for blacks will improve. After all, Liberals know what's best for everyone right? Whites are 12% higher to be hospitalized than blacks from COVID, so what do we do about that? It doesn't fit the narrative therefore it doesn't count.

amerigirl

pual, that is true but that is not what they are talking about with this. It is about how their jobs put them at a higher risk and looking for a way to address that problem. As they stated; the state does not have the proper testing capacity and infrastructure for a safe opening and that many workers who are minorities will be placed at unfair risk. That is what they are addressing. It is serving to protect those with jobs that are at higher risk who happen to also be minorities. No real agenda here except making working conditions safer.

Science Can Save Us

It's too bad that so many commenters here want to say this is all politics. I understand the political motivation to change the subject. That's easy enough to figure out. 3 million more Americans filed for unemployment last week, the death toll for the US in this pandemic is closing in on 90,000, nearly 36 million are out of work, the nation is losing confidence in the President if the ratings on his handling of the crisis are to be believed, and now the head of the Senate Republicans says it's all going badly because the previous President (who left office more than 3 years ago) didn't have a plan. I get why you'd change the subject and want to argue all day long on whether we're reopening America fast enough. But the consequences of getting this reopening wrong are serious and unforgiving and knee-jerk, politically-driven decisions are THE LAST THING we need right now.

springerdad

It is it amazing you start out your post "It's too bad that so many commenters here want to say this is all politics" and then the rest of your post is ALL about politics.

LoudounClear

Well, the point was that people who try to label stay-at-home as a Democratic plot are not helping. It's not a political problem we face here, it's an economic problem created by a pandemic.

LoudounMarine

Right on springerdad! Liberalspeak 101 ... project your problems on the other side ... if they say it's not political ... it's political

LetsBreal

I'm confused. The consequences of getting this reopening wrong are serious and unforgiving? Are the rates of increased murder, suicide, foreclosure and people losing their houses and retirement savings, domestic violence, businesses permanently closing, careers destroyed, increased deaths due to cancer/cardiovascular problems/other diseases not related to COVID because timely testing is put off, and supply chains everywhere being destroyed also serious? 33 million people are out of jobs because of the pandemic, and 40% of those jobs are gone PERMANENTLY. Additionally, there are ridiculous three trillion dollar spending proposals on the table in spite of all that tax revenue gone, because people are not working, thus, they're not getting paid and thus not paying taxes. Can you look at BOTH sides of the equation?

The LAST THING we need is people not understanding the magnitude of the permanent change coming by stalling for time.

Jeanne T

Some people are unwilling to consider all the consequences for all the people. Instead, the believe there are only two views: 1) either you keep things shut down until.....whenever (we find a cure, we have a vaccine, we flatten the curve, etc.), or 2) you accuse those who would like to like to see things open up again as being selfish because you want to feed your family and/or basically wanting people to die. In other words, they do not believe there is a middle ground. Perhaps it makes them feel good about themselves; they certainly consider themselves to be superior in their thinking, and anyone who disagrees with them at any level is opposed to science.

scottva

#1 - Obama blamed Bush for EVERYTHING during his 8 years so spare us the empty comparison

#2 - Springerdad is 100% right, how can your very first sentence condemn " so many commenters here want to say this is all politics" and yet the rest of your post is centered around politics?

#3 - This is what Liberals do, plain, simple and in black and white (print not race)

perfectlee

You report "died as a result of COVID-19". I want to know if they actually died as a result of the virus or did they test positive for the virus at some point? These elderly people could have had a corona virus years ago. Are we certain it is COVID-19? Or are hospitals and health officials listing it as this to receive the payment I hear hospitals are getting when treating COVID patients. They get more if the patient is put on ventilators which is mostly the elderly. Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment. Medicare has determined that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital, you’ll get paid $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000, three times as much. I need more detailed facts than what you are reporting in order to believe what I am reading….

Duncan Idaho

Look up the term "comorbidity" and get back to us.

pual mase

Dr Birx had acknowledged that patients that die with Covid, and not necessarily from Covid, are classified as Covid deaths.

The takeaway is that the death statistics for Covid are murky.

Jeanne T

Co-morbidities are certainly a factor in those that have been diagnosed as having contracted COVID, those with already compromised immune systems, the elderly, etc. We must isolate these individuals. However, dying WITH coronavirus is not the same as dying FROM it.

amerigirl

Jeanne, true dying from something else should not count. But I know of a person who had to leave her home for cancer treatments which were showing great progress. They expected her to go into remission because the tumor had shrunk so much. She contracted the virus and died last week. How would you count her?

amerigirl

Pual. how misleading when that statement was not even about death is the US. It starts out with "There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition" They can't do that in this country because each health dept is by state. It is the state that determines the cause of death not the federal gov.

amerigirl

A coroner has to sign off on the cause of death and has to either test or autopsy to find out. There is no extra payment for the virus, the hospitals that have medicare patients will pay about 20% more per patient (almost as much as a patient on regular insurance) to help cover the uninsured so they are not out in the public. They do NOT get more for a patient on a vent. All that conspiracy theory about getting $13,000 and $39,000 has been debunked by medicare and every fact checking site out there. Please fact check.

Peterrabbit

Democrats want Virginia to stay closed.

Republicans want Virginia to re-open.

It's politics! It's all about making the President look bad!

It's time to trust business owners and citizens to do the right thing by operating safely! The BOS telling businesses when to open is crazy! Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves!

feathers

It shouldn't be politics. However, it all starts with good data for data-driven decision making. It was a total debacle that Virginia started adding in serology testing to inflate the number of new cases. Just today, Richmond finally reversed course and says it will stop counting unreliable covid-19 tests, while denying efforts to boost overall standing. Without serology tests counting, the number of new daily cases will nosedive for the second half of May. This is good for everyone, no matter to political persuasion!

amerigirl

If anything it is deflating the numbers. Those first responders are the ones tested the most, they could have 10 negative tests and never have the virus. Until they stop counting ll those negative test done repeatedly on first responders we will never know.

amerigirl

Nobody wants businesses closed, dems are in the same position as you are. It is the president who is playing politics by saying that. How do you trust people who won't follow the guidelines and wear a mask to operate safely? You are contradicting yourself. Stop with the politics, the founding fathers never wanted people to die for money.

Virginia SGP

On average, about 4000 people die in Loudoun every year (340K pop with 80 yr life expectancy). Are we going to report on all the elderly residents who die of other causes every day as well?

Loudoun Observer

Who was it that said "never let a good crisis go to waste"? Adding facts and perspective will do nothing to sway the people obsessed with masks, gloves and keeping everything closed indefinitely.

amerigirl

And it's the people that won't wear masks that will end up keeping us closed indefinitely. Funny how people want to open but don't want to take precautions to slow the spread.

scottva

1000% correct

pual mase

AG there is nothing in your statements that is true. People, for the most part, are willing to take precautions, when reopening.

Hyperbole is the sister of lying.

Duncan Idaho

How many die from extremely infectious and deadly diseases? I'd like to know that information. If they die of something non-infectious, that doesn't affect me as much.

Virginia SGP

If you are old as dirt, you are going to die of something very soon anyway. It's like a salesman taking credit for creating economic activity when selling a car to a buyer desperate for a new car. While the salesman may have helped her company get the sale, the economic activity was coming to some company regardless. Destroying the economy and the careers of younger generations for the sake of adding a year of life expectancy to the greediest generation in history (SS/Medicare theft, loading up debt, you name it) is the most evil act in the last 100 years.

amerigirl

CDC website.

amerigirl

SGP, you don’t have to be old as dirt, they say 60. I’m past that as is my mom who is almost 92 and nobody has the right to tell either of us, we should stand aside so businesses can open since we are going to die anyway. Everybody dies. If that car doesn’t get sold for another 2 weeks and I am safer I have no problem with that, it’s not like I haven’t worked for over 50 years and contributed to the economy. Since I have contributed, I have every right to a happy retirement. Without people saying I should be prepared to die for the greater and not necessary, good. People have waited all their lives to be able to afford retirement and you want to take it from them?

LoudounClear

I think right now we're concentrating on instances where getting too close to an infected individual can cause death in an otherwise healthy person.

amerigirl

true but all lives should matter, they all have families.

amerigirl

Or you could just pick the ones you think should die.

Jeanne T

So what was Andrew Cuomo doing when he directed COVID patients to go to nursing homes?

amerigirl

If they don't get to die of old age. They become a stat with the CDC.

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