Coronavirus case update for May 7, 2020

Two more Loudoun County residents have died as a result of COVID-19, state health officials reported on Thursday, bringing the county's total number of the coronavirus-related deaths to 26.

The age and sex breakdown of the deceased are as follows: 19 have been 80 years old or older, nine men and 10 women; five have been between the ages of 70 and 79, three men and two women; one man was between 60 and 69; and one woman was between 50 and 59.

Loudoun County's confirmed COVID-19 cases stand at 1,043 on Thursday, according to the latest figures reported by the state.

The case count increased by 45 from Tuesday’s reporting and is up 297 from April 30's figures. The state did not provide any reports on Wednesday. 105 people in Loudoun have been hospitalized.

Statewide, Virginia has seen 769 deaths and 21,570 cases, a 1,314-case jump from Tuesday. 2,955 hospitalizations have occurred, and 136,558 people have been tested.

Gov. Ralph Northam (D) said Wednesday that some parts of the state may keep coronavirus-related restrictions in place longer than the rest of the state. The governor said areas of the state hard hit by the virus, like northern Virginia and the Eastern Shore, may extend bans on certain business openings and public gatherings that are expected to expire May 15.

Nonessential businesses are expected to reopen on May 15 after Northam outlined a three-phased plan on Monday.

In Loudoun, the School Board is considering eliminating class rankings and a shortened school year due to the pandemic.

And County Administrator Tim Hemstreet reported this week that the federal government in April intercepted a shipment of personal protective equipment bound for Loudoun.

More information about the coronavirus and how to prevent its spread can be found at CDC.gov/Coronavirus and Loudoun.gov/coronavirus.

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(91) comments

hardworkingamerican

Wow Duncan, it is obvious that you don't really care about people as I was responding to LCs question about knowing more. Use the return key? Wow. You really don't care. Sad person you must be.

amerigirl

You must have a reading comprehension problem if you think asking for some paragraph breaks? means you don't care about people. Are you portraying a victim? That is a real stretch

Beetle

Does anyone have any toilet paper i could borrow?

amerigirl

borrow? Please do not return used TP.

pual mase

I have some old copies of the NY Times you can use

amerigirl

You may want to read them first. Ya know, catch up with reality.

springerdad

From the Washington Post not Fox News.

14.7% unemployment rate -

U.S. shed 20.5 million jobs in April amid pandemic

Analysts warned it could take many years to return to the 3.5 percent unemployment rate the nation experienced in February.

If all those people comfy working from home your jobs maybe safe for a little while but this will snowball quickly.

Major companies are going bankrupt and the federal government will not be able to bail at everyone.

You can shelter in place until September or longer but when you finally do leave your house you will be walking out to the 1920's and not 2020.

Ouroboros

The devil is always in the details. I’m sure a good number of those are employees in the merc/serve and retail industries who can’t work from home. But would agree that it will take years to get the number down, possibly 2-3 years. Major companies that are going bankrupt are those same retail establishments but also alternative energy companies that relied on venture capitalist money, which obviously is drying up. So there aren't any winners but that doesn’t mean it’s all doom and gloom. But maybe you are referencing clothing retailers, who jack up their pricing on useless articles of clothing? Okay. But there are also different types of Bankruptcies, such as chapter 11. Which allows companies to restructure their debts and have additional time to bounce back and not close their doors forever. So please, end this doom and gloom and stop blaming those who are still working and who had the forethought to save their money in unforeseen events.

springerdad

I really can't believe you wrote this. I am sad you are a fellow Democrat. You sound like I got mine type of person so screw everyone else.

"stop blaming those who are still working and who had the forethought to save their money in unforeseen events"

amerigirl

Amen!

Ouroboros

SpringerDad, sorry to burst your bubble, but I’m not a Democrat. I don’t vote and don’t care about American Politics. I have other things to concentrate on other than tea parties, an elephant, a donkey, etc. Also, no follow up to your comment that I replied to? It’s funny how you throw headliner stats out there but have nothing to back it up when someone places reality into perspective.

Wear a mask and stay safe!

springerdad

OB - What is interesting is your inability to see the big picture. As you may know when a company goes through Chapter 11 they never come out the same. Almost always jobs are lost as a result. These are jobs that are not going to be filled quickly and will lead to long term unemployment for many people.

If you are paying attention to anything but yourself you would realize that the automobile industry and airline industry are on the edge not just retail. Retail companies are the first to fall but they will not be the last. October 1st will be a blood bath for the airline industry.

People that own a local small business can not close until September and still continue to exist. Do you know what happens when they close for good? The people they employed lose their jobs.

It is obvious you have no experience in economics or finance but as long as you are safe at home the world is fine.

I could also discuss the issues that are going to come up with mortgages and car loans but I don't want to take up too much of your time.

amerigirl

Springer, some companies that have filed bankruptcy have come back just fine, Six Flags, Marvel, and Sbarro did it twice. There were also bailouts of the big 3, which every penny of the bailout and interest was paid back. But these are larger companies. I disagree with your assessment of the car and airline industries. The car manufactures are starting a good comeback with their promotions and sales are already improving. The planners and designers work from home, they have given most of them a pay cut to be reimbursed later to ease the pain from the crisis. The biggest problem is the factory workers many were furloughed (almost all got to keep their health insurance) but they have already made plans to bring them back. Pretty amazing when you consider that most of them are in very hard-hit areas. The airline industry received a direct payment from the govt. They will probably come out of this smaller in the beginning, but they will have less passengers also. They are probably the worse hit industry.

Many small businesses have adapted with doing business online. I agree that it is not a sustainable way to do business but I also don’t think we will still be having this problem in September. Unless we open too early and have to start all over again.

amerigirl

That's right, we are in a crisis. Did you expect things not to happen?

hardworkingamerican

Wow Cindy Lou Who for going off the deep end again. And LC thank you for being straight forward. For the person who said shut down and shelter in place through September you must either be a multi-billionaire, or taking people's stimulus checks out of their mail box. Not sure which one it is. LC and others here, people make blanket statements I guess they/we can’t help that. Like for instance, Orange man bad, Obama good. Just hold on that is only an example. No one person anywhere is without their faults and shortcomings, it's called being human, well, except for maybe some here who think they are perfect, ok that aside. Civil conversation straight forward. People here think they speak for the elderly, "those over 60" etc... Well they do not. The reason I know is that I am one of those elderly people, no I'm not 70...lolll...as was implied by someone and all of my friends are similar ages. Most of us are all essential and we have kept working, as for me and many others at a very reduced wage with many of my friends laid off. Unlike obviously so many here that have an unlimited amount of money so they don't need to work or keep their businesses open, I/we, my wife and I, DO NOT. Let's see so I can screw the mortgage company, home equity company, credit card companies, IRS/taxpayers by throwing my hands up in the air and say, oh bail me out...OR...wait for it, I can be a responsible citizen from all angles, health, financial and social responsibility and meet the middle of the road for all of them. It is the way that us raised in the 50s were taught to take responsibility for what your obligations are and no one is above fulfilling their contracts and agreements. The reason of course, is when you bail on your obligations you harm others. That is not right. Blanket statements about shutting things down and keeping them shut down all year long or into September are just people that I guess want to solicit a "knee-jerk" response and do not really want to engage in a "conversation". To the person who said "you don't think we can become another NY". The answer is NO. Why don't you put up the facts that have been shown by the experts as to why NY ended up that way. The least of which is that their wacko Como Governor required COVID positive people to be taken in by nursing homes. And if they went to the hospital they were required, even when infected, to go back to the nursing homes. The problem with most of this is the Governors. LC I will end with this. No one here, not you and I certainly don't think others for the most part, has been bashing doctors or any other first front line people. I have them in my family. I talk to them every day. I see them when I can, when work permits, we are a very close family. My daughter-in-law as I have said many times when the LTM will post my comments is a molecular biologist working on the front line of this whatever you want to call it. Dr.s always weigh options in treating people, as happened with my father, mother and mother in-law, that is the treatment worse than the disease? But ultimately it is the families’ decision, the person's decision. The treatment killed my father and mother-in-law. I am remorseful every day that I listened to the Dr.s and wish I/we made a different decision. My mother looked me in the eyes and said I will not let Dr.s kill me. She lived many many more years and they were good years. She did need help getting around near the end but she did the things she loved even with stage 4 lung cancer. She burned brightly those years and I cherished every moment that I could spend with her. So before people here start making blanket statements and LC I appreciate your words, consider that one comment that must apply to all is never realistic. If you can’t trust your fellow citizen to act responsibly then we do not have a society. We put our lives into each other’s hands every day we go outside and get in our car, or walk on the sidewalk or pull up to a gas station where someone is smoking a cigarette while filling their vehicle. I believe that trust is a two-way street and LC I appreciate your wanting to know more about what is really going on with someone. The sun sure felt good yesterday. Take care.

amerigirl

This is a novel, maybe when I have time I'll read it.

Duncan Idaho

Why can't you mix in some paragraph breaks? You know, use the "Return" key once in a while?

Beetle

Best comment here.

amerigirl

Talk about going off the deep end, look at the length of this comment. Who said shut down and shelter in place through September you had to be a multi-billionaire? Very over dramatic. Who says they speak for the elderly? Many suggest that they shelter in place like they have that luxury if their place of business opens. Who in these comments do you think (obviously) have an unlimited amount of money? I am retired and make very little on SS (chose to stay home to raise kids) and my husband’s salary has been cut in half. If his business closed, he could collect unemployment instead. Most people feel that same sense of responsibility that you do when it comes to paying their debts. There are very few that project the entitled vibe in these comments. But really, I think you have said too much. I do think you need to talk to someone; it can’t hurt, it could help. There is no shame in it.

ace10

This is hilarious. Someone who comments dozens upon dozens of times in a single story is complaining about the length of another comment. Eesh. You can't make this stuff up.

pual mase

Some people have no self -awareness and/or inflated self-regard, believing there expression is somehow more important.

Loudoun4Trump

So why isn't our state open yet? Sweden never shutdown and don't have any issues...I guess some people want to get back to work to feed their families and for doing so in TX an OBAMA judge will throw you jail.....ridiculous....

amerigirl

Somebody has been telling you stories. Sweden really, really enforces their social distancing. They have gone as far as spreading manure in parks to force social distancing. In Sweden, business is not actually proceeding as usual. Most travel and mass gatherings are not allowed, and some schools have been closed. But restrictions from government are considerably less severe than many other countries. Sweden has the highest fatalities and case count per capita in Scandinavia. Even while the number of Covid-19 cases had fallen in 26 European countries over the last two weeks, there had been “no substantial change” in Sweden. With only 25,265 cases they had 3,175 deaths. That is a huge percentage. I don’t have a clue what you are talking about in Texas.

If you mean the salon owner, she was warned She was issued a citation and then sent a cease and desist letter by Dallas County officials. The salon remained open. If you break the law you should pay the price. They opened on 5/5 and their health dept.is already preparing for a second spike

adopted_va_son

Many, many people are asymptomatic to the the virus will never be tested. You cannot calculate mortality rates based on people that test "positive". "Lies, damned lies, and statistics." ... Mark Twain

amerigirl

adopted. True there were also many who became sick and could not get a test unless they were sick enough to be hospitalized. The country was too unprepared for this virus and we will never have all the info.

LoudounPulse

Shelter in place if you are over 60yrs old.

Everybody else, lets get back to normal.

amerigirl

pipe dream. Who is going to pay the people that should stay home? You can't get unemployment if the business you work for is open.

pual mase

So you think we should punish everyone else?

amerigirl

pual, how privileged of you to think that. Safety is not punishment.

scottva

Amerigirl, CindyWHO and others, do some research. Yes COVID is killing people and Yes people are getting sick, but do you know the actual numbers OR are you just regurgitating what you hear coming out of NY and IHME? Do you know how much a hospital in NYC is receiving form every patient that died from COVID or is said to have died from COVID? $40k per death. The IHME and WHO don't know the REAL death rate AND the death rate percentage is decreasing despite people dying. Oh that can't be you Trump supporting conspiratorialist. Yup, it's true and it's using basic math. Just a suggestion, before you yammer on about how the world is coming to an end and that 70k+ people have died from COVID, do a little digging to understand more of the story than you're being spoonfed and then dig some more because when you get to the vaccine part your heads will explode and when it does read some more.

Forget about "right-wing" sites, research Bill Gates, the Gates Foundation, IHME and good ole' smallman himself, Fauci.

amerigirl

Seriously scott you are making fun of her user name? The actual number are given everyday. Try looking at Worldometer, whose data is also trusted and used by the UK Government, Johns Hopkins CSSE, the Government of Thailand, the Government of Vietnam, the Government of Pakistan, Financial Times, The New York Times, Business Insider, BBC, and many others. Have you done any research? Are you aware that Virginia added 773 new cases yeaterday and 43 more deaths? Hospitals are not getting anymore for people that die from Covid-19. That all started from a Minnesota state Sen. Scott Jensen, recent interview on Fox News about Medicare payments for COVID-19 hospitalizations suggesting that hospitals may have a financial motivation when it comes to classifying cases or deaths as related to COVID-19. What they do pay is an additional 20% on top of traditional Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients during the public health emergency, and by reimbursing hospitals for treating the uninsured patients with the disease (at that enhanced Medicare rate). It has been proven wrong by all the fact checks out there. Medicare has fixed rates at discharge based off a grouping system known as diagnosis-related groups. The CARES Act created the 20% add-on to be paid for Medicare patients with COVID-19. The act further created a $100 billion fund that is being used to financially assist hospitals — a “portion” of which will be “used to reimburse healthcare providers, at Medicare rates, for COVID-related treatment of the uninsured,” according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. So that is a lie, it was nothing but a conspiracy theory. It looks like you are being spoon-fed lies by the right. So why exactly are you making fun of Gates and Fauci?

LoudounClear

Here's an idea. For those arguing that we should reopen (liberate) Virginia and get back to normal activoty...explain to us why you personally favor that. What's in it for you? Logic dictates that we not rush into reopening until certain trends begin taking effect but maybe your personal circumstance and why you want to reopen things might help us understand. Just parroting Trump's self-serving nonsense or Fox News talking points isn't convincing anyone...but maybe your personal situation would make enough sense that we'd get past the knee-jerk stuff and begin to have a better discussion.

LoudounMarine

LoudounClear ... you 'almost' had an insightful post ... you just couldn't resist your jab at Trump though. Logic dictates that we resume some semblance of normal life utilizing the necessary safety precautions and common sense. I don't endorse 'rushing' back into the old normal crowded situations, but I do endorse removing the state lock-down so people can choose for themselves what is appropriate. We now need to listen to the economists so our country doesn't fall into a depression ...

amerigirl

Marine, he was explaining what the problem is, if you take that as a jab you aren’t facing reality. Trump has made it very clear what he wants on TV and tweeting his “LIBERATE” tweets. He has said that he wants the country to reopen to save the economy. He has made it very clear that it will cause a spike in deaths but as he said. There’ll be more death,” Trump said. He also claimed the coronavirus “will pass, with or without a vaccine,” although his own scientists dispute this.

Logic dictates what? What other country has reopened this fast? Germany, Italy and France are just starting to re-open. They had it weeks before us. People can’t choose for themselves. It a place of business reopens You have to go to work or lose unemployment. That would force people to go to work that are elderly, or have underlying conditions. These are the people who have had the extra burden and cost forced on them anyway and really can’t afford to lose any income. You think the economists care how many lives it costs?

LoudounClear

I'm heartened that you almost liked it but I was trying to get people to give us some local specifics, not what they heard on Fox News or MSNBC for that matter...and not something that ignores the mismanagement of our national response that has brought us here...and though he may try to say otherwise, Trump is responsible for that. If the "Marine" bit on your name refers to USMC and not something aquatic, you'll remember that taking responsibility is a part of leadership.

pual mase

I agree with your post LoudounMarine. And the never ending criticism of Trump’s management is tiresome and based on lies and plain old TDS.

Of course Trump wants the economy opened, most people do. We quibble about timing and conditions of reopening.

AG adds her BS talking points as usual, somehow blaming Trump because “he wants to reopen to save the economy”. What is wrong with that?

AG claims “he made it very clear it (reopening the economy) will cause a spike in deaths”. This is a lie. Trump has acknowledged deaths will grow to 70, 80 maybe 90k, but never alluded that reopening would cause a “spike”.

AG must have missed saying that two thirds of NY virus deaths were with people that were sheltering in place.......locked down!

And yes the virus will pass as Trump said and he never predicted any specific timeframe. Yet AG implies this is somehow an issue.

AG goes on to take the position that because some people may choose not to go to work, nobody should go to work. She actually says :people cant choose for themselves”.

And yes AG economists are people too and I bet they do care how many lives it costs.

springerdad

Here you go LC. Please read all the job loss numbers this morning as you work from home.

The coronavirus pandemic’s devastating economic toll will come into sharp focus Friday, when the April jobs report is released. The report “will probably be one of the worst ever,” the St. Louis Federal Reserve president said. Economists expect Labor Department data to show that an unprecedented 22 million jobs were wiped from U.S. payrolls last month — more than 10 times the previous record, set at the end of World War II.

amerigirl

How many jobs were there at the end of WWII? Didn't most women stay home and the men worked? How come you list jobs and not lives?

springerdad

AG - Just leave me alone. You post just to argue with EVERYONE. It really is tiresome.

pual mase

Hey LC, the nation’s economy is the backbone of the country that enables all else, like national defense, social programs, justice system, etc. Sure we need to be aware of the health risks of the crisis and take precautions, but a myopic focus on “certain trends” while the economy collapses is lunacy. The media and many sycophant dems are scare-mongering and playing politics with virus response and it seems many are falling for it. It doesn’t help the discussion when those that recognize the challenges by the pandemic AND a global economic crisis are accused of not caring about lives and invoke Nazism, genocide etc.

The question isn’t “what’s in for you” but what’s in it for all of us in the broader perspective.

amerigirl

The PEOPLE are the backbone of the country. The securities of the country are not going to fall apart in the amount of time it takes to protect the people. They didn’t fall apart during the recession, right? Who know all the health risks that you think people can take precautions from? They are finding out new things everyday and the chance of the virus mutating increase with its growth. First it was only seniors, but now kids are having traumatic effects. One 5 year old even died from that side effect yesterday. It is you guys that are playing politics with other peoples lives just to get the economy boosted prematurely. If you are worried about the global economy then why do you think that France, Italy, and Germany started their openings in the last few day? You bet it is like Nazism. Let the old die so the younger who think they won’t get it, can get their money. Money over lives, what is wrong with you people?

Your question IS what is in it for you, because from the broader perspective, lives are more important.

Ouroboros

Extend shelter in place till September. Stay safe and wear a mask.

gtrunner

Extend for only the elderly and those with comorbid complications. Let me keep going to work with my mask, plastic cube divider, hand sanitizer and common sense.

amerigirl

What about the people who can't collect unemployment because their business is open but they have underlying conditions? Common sense isn't going to guarantee you anything, that is one thing this virus has pointed out.

factchecker66

I would feel a lot safer if EVERYONE would wear a mask and keep a social distance from me. Unfortunately, the only place I have seen "no mask, no entry" signs is at Costco. Look around Walmart and see how many customers are claiming their "right" to not wear a mask when the whole purpose of the mask is to protect others. Regardless of the easing of restrictions for political reasons, I will not be going into any store, salon, gym, etc., where I feel it is unsafe to do so.

ace10

And then what happens in October? December? May of 2021?

amerigirl

Didn't trump say “We think we'll have a vaccine by the end of this year and we're pushing very hard,” he said at a Fox News town hall at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington. “We're building supply lines, we even have the final vaccine.”? Fauci saidit’s “within the realm of possibility” to have a vaccine widely available by January, but only if drug companies are willing to assume the risk of beginning to ramp up production of the vaccine before it is fully tested and approved. They have and have already started trials on humans.Testing until then, if the govt every gets a handle on it.

pual mase

In Loudoun one person under 60 had died and none under 50.

And every day the media posts the cumulative number of deaths , that by definition, cannot decrease.

Each day, some people will gasp and jump on their moral high horse and insist lockdowns continue indefinitely as they try to shame those that want to earn a living.

scottva

Exactly.

amerigirl

Another spreader wanna be

BLT

"And every day the media posts the cumulative number of deaths, htat by definition can not decrease." Well, duh. I think what normal people would like to see is a day where the number stays the same. Can you take your nonsense science somewhere else? The rest of us are dealing with a once-in-a-lifetime crisis and you're not helping with your politically-inspired drivel.

amerigirl

The curve can, and normal people don’t rely on the dashboard from this paper. It is just a section of the info VDH puts out. No matter which part they put up somebody complains about it instead of getting the info themselves. If you want it more detailed than go to the site and look for yourself. Virginia is definitely going up the curve right now. Being ignorant of the science is not the answer, and making it sound like it is unimportant is not the answer. How about this, all you people go back to work and if you get sick just deal with it. Do not involve others in your experiment, no doctors, nurses, EMT’s or health people at all. If you continue to work during the pandemic you should make sure that you do not come in contact with anyone vulnerable or over 60. Remember that 40% of the population have an underlying condition.

The science is real, your version of it is nonsense. There should be nothing about this that is politically driven, it should be a bi-partisan effort to protect Americans. The politics came in when trump decided that he could never get re-elected without a good economy and thinks that if it cost some Americans their lives that’s fine.

pual mase

That’s the best you got BLT? What are you doing to deal with this “once in a lifetime” crisis” beside ignoring facts, criticizing , blaming and hiding under your rock?

Ouroboros

So lives don’t matter when they are over an age threshold? Nice. Nazi Germany called, they want their Hitler back.

novanick

Shame those that want to make a living, how so? Calling people irresponsible and reckless for doing these protests where there is little to no social distancing, despite what Trump says, or storming a capital building with AR’s in my opinion and I am sure others is irresponsible and reckless in the cloud of a global pandemic.

I agree we need to get back, this sucks. I got bills piling up just like the next person but I do not want to rush some haphazard attempt that has a greater probability of setting us back further. I know you have conservative viewpoints and that is just fine with me but if there ever was a time we need a strong federal strategic plan that is implemented would be in times of war and a national emergency. Sorry, you just can’t have 50 different plans and it be effective without some strong national guideline.

amerigirl

So what you are saying is that it’s just fine if people over 60 die? You should be able to do what you want at the risk to others? Maybe you should get a moral high horse, and get some morals. Indefinitely could be anywhere from a day to eternity. Get real. They have vaccines in the works. If people continue to think they are mightier than this virus and it won’t get them because they are younger than 60 than realize that you are only looking at deaths. There are so many people that can still contract it. Will they have complications that they mat have to deal with for the rest of their lives? Could be but you simply don’t care.

CindyLou

This is so sad that so many of you are disrespecting all those that have died, the doctors and nurses. It's not just the flu and it's not just old people dying.

"At the end of another long shift treating coronavirus patients, Dr. Hadi Halazun opened his Facebook page to find a man insisting to him that "no one's dying" and that the coronavirus is "fake news" drummed up by the news media.

Hadi tried to engage and explain his firsthand experience with the virus. In reply, another user insinuated that he wasn't a real doctor, saying pictures from his profile showing him at concerts and music festivals proved it.

"I told them: 'I am a real doctor. There are 200 people in my hospital's ICU,'" said Halazun, a cardiologist in New York. "And they said, 'Give me your credentials.' I engaged with them, and they kicked me off their wall."

"I left work and I felt so deflated. I let it get to me."

Halazun, like many other health care professionals, is dealing with a bombardment of misinformation and harassment from conspiracy theorists, some of whom have moved beyond posting online to pressing doctors for proof of the severity of the pandemic.

And it's taking a toll. Halazun said dealing with conspiracy theorists is the "second most painful thing I've had to deal with, other than separation of families from their loved one."

Several other doctors shared similar experiences, saying that they regularly had to treat patients who had sought care too late because of conspiracy theories spread on social media and that social media companies have to do more to counteract the forces that spread lies for profit."

scottva

Really Cindy Who: "This is so sad that so many of you are disrespecting all those that have died, the doctors and nurses." Who exactly is "so many of you"? Some morons giving a doctor a bad time is not cool at all but I can't help read between your crooked lines. No matter the situation you will always have morons saying and doing insensitive things. However, are you any better by suggesting an entire group of people are just as guilty as the ones making the comments to the doctor? Your post would have been a much better read if you didnt feel the need to add your less than two cents.

Matthew

People die every minute, nonstop, and all of us will die at some point, your fake morale outrage is tired.

amerigirl

I believe you meant morals. People do die, but they shouldn't have other people influencing their death.

adopted_va_son

What is 0.0063%? The percentage of people in Loudoun County who have died from the Wuhan virus. BUT, we are still in lock down and this is pure insanity.

BLT

There are outcomes other than death that have most thinking people concerned. Why do you followers of that guy wearing the orange ferret pelt on his head insist on saying this is all no big deal and people should get back to normal living--even as the infection numbers continue to climb?

LoudounMarine

BLT - you obviously don't know what you are talking about. The number of cases are increasing in LoCo and VA because testing is increasing exponentially. The number of hospitalizations are declining and most 'thinking' people realize that if cases are not increasing at the same rate as the number of tests ... then the virus is actually becoming less prevalent in our population. I would advise you look up the term "Muller Ratchet" if you really want to understand what is happening with this virus.

amerigirl

Marine then if it just because of testing then why are the deaths going up too? There were 27 reported on 5/5. Hospitalizations have a longer time period report cases so how effective is that? Some are not even reported for 7-10 days. You can see an example of that on the VDH site. May 1-3 had a spike and May 4-8 have not all been reported. Even “thinking” people do not have that info. The start to decline may be happening now but it needs to be a stronger decline so we don’t end up doing this whole thing all over again.

pual mase

Hey genius BLT, infections go up as testing capacity increases. When you say others say “this is no big deal” it just demonstrates your ignorance and dishonesty.

Take your BS elsewhere.

amerigirl

Good question what is 0.0063%? Where did you come up with that figure? Is that the final count because it has just started to rise in Loudoun at a much quicker rate. It’s probably different even today. How many people that live in Loudoun work in other counties? Did you know there is a name that isn’t racist for the virus? Do you hate Chinese or something?

adopted_va_son

My best friend is Chinese and who said I'm not Chinese as well? I thought calculation was rather obvious but I guess not. Therefore I'll show you the math: 26 (number of deaths in Loudoun County as of 7/7/2020) divided by 413,538 (population of Loudoun County) = 0.0063%.

amerigirl

adopted, if you were Chinese you wouldn't use a racial slur. The virus has a name and that is not it. Sure your best friend is Chinese, right. Let me show you why the math is wrong. The pandemic is still happening so you do not have a final tally of how many died or were hospitalized or had it yet.

adopted_va_son

The name of a city located in China where the virus started is not a racist comment.

amerigirl

Opening is getting safer and safer every day, right?

springerdad

Actually it is for most people. It is dangerous for people living in nursing and assisted living facilities.

amerigirl

In your dreams maybe. It is not safe if you are over 60, have an underlying health condition, and in some cases if you are health and young. How about who you take it home to. I think all you want to be carries should get a hotel. Do you think that all 74,689 people that died were in elderly homes?

springerdad

Amerigirl - You are free to stay in your house as long as you like as you are currently doing. You can wait this out until there are no more jobs left and our government no longer has any money to send to you.

I realize you have little to lose staying in your house for months and months on end but many people are not that lucky.

I wear a mask every time I go out and the risk of me bringing something home with me will not change which ever store, park or at my place of employment. There is no magical safe place and they will not be one for a long time.

CindyLou

Are you serious? So no one on this posts believes what happened in New York could happen here or any other town or city???? Or for all you right wing radical pro-life sicko's (as you put it), you don't believe this "Governor Andrew Cuomo said that 799 people died from COVID-19 on Wednesday. Can you imagine? What would each one of you do if 799 people in Loudoun County or Nva. died in one day? I really wish you all non believers could respect this virus for what it has the capability to do. It's not just old people.....nurses, doctors, young healthy adults are dying too. Don't be so blind. waiting for the fake news reply...…..

BLT

If you know something the medical professionals don't know, you should pass it along to them. They're still acting like this is dangerous for everyone and that even though you might not die from it, if you get infected you then help pass it along to others and that keeps the pandemic going.

gtrunner

Especially those in NY long term care facilities or apparently staying at home in NY.

amerigirl

Springer, why is it people like you think that people like me, with underlying conditions can just stay in our houses? Do you think we can self-maintain our illnesses? How do you get blood drawn from home? How do you get chemo? Dialysis? Or other therapies that keep us alive that someone can only get at a specialized clinic or hospital? How do I do that when I have an elderly parent that I watch 3-4 days a week? Just leave them alone to not eat or give their meds to. They also need to g to doctors and someone has to get them there. Are you psychic? How do you know there will be no safe place or no vaccine for a long time? If France, Italy and Germany are finally over the curve and starting to open why should we risk our population when our curve is going up in most states? This is not a natural selection situation.

pual mase

AG why do people like you think you can keep others from earning a living and supporting our families indefinitely until you believe it is totally safe for you to do everything they want/need to do? What give you the right to destroy millions of small business that people may have poured their lives into building. How do you know there will be a vaccine? How do you know it will be 100% effective? Are you psychic?

Life is not risk free and will never will be.

In the meantime, we know the economy is imploding and we know the large majority of people can return to work with low risk, while practicing social distancing to the extent practical.

There is no excuse to complete the destruction of the world economy so you can feel completely safe.

amerigirl

Pual, because people like you will make people like me die. Not only that but if you go back to work before it is safe for someone who has an underlying medical condition can they will lose their unemployment for not working. If the business is open, they must work. Pual, I don’t destroy millions of small business. They will still have their clientele when this is over. Dead propel are just dead. It’s not like people cannot make trips to the doctor if they have problems. They still need to go places to have blood drawn, get dialysis, chemotherapy, gene therapy and transfusions and not because they want to, because they have to. The vaccine part is easy. They are pretty close in Oxford (which is a large-scale human trial), and we have 8 different companies that have started human trials in this country and over a hundred more still working on a vaccine. Germany and China (doing 2 human trial testing’s) are also doing human trials. Is anything in life 100%? I don’t have to be psychic; they will give the results. You are telling me, a survivor of a serious health disease that “Life is not risk free and will never will be”. I know that all too well, as I know that I have no guaranties that it won’t happen again. Then you must be psychic if you know that returning to work is low risk because that is not what the medical professionals are saying. They didn’t change the expected death count for nothing. This is a pandemic; you need to accept that. The is not going to be a complete the destruction of the world economy if we don’t take the risks of prolonging the pandemic.

DBC

How many staff at Harris Teeter, Giant, Wegmans, Lowes, Home Depot - all of which are open every day where thousands of customers have visited in the last month - have died or are hospitalized? I don't know, but don't you think if the staff at grocery stores and Target and Walmart were spreading virus or coming down with it at an alarming rate the media would report it?

amerigirl

Do you think they would share that info? The number in our bordering county of Fairfax that have died from the virus is over 200, we are lucky with only 26. If you don't think that some of those are essential workers you are mistaken.How would the media report something they don't know about? There are privacy laws.

ace10

The media would report it. With glee! But of course there aren't a lot of 70-90 year old people stocking the shelves and running the registers at big box retailers. And we know that that age group represents the vast majority of people who are succumbing to the disease. The "cower-in-place" crew will point to the outliers (non-geriatric) and then scream about how WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE !1!!1!11

BLT

Why do you draw the line at die or hospitalized? If they're infected then it's very likely they're spreading it to others and keeping the infection dominoes falling. There's more to stopping a pandemic than just focusing only on each person who gets the disease and tracking what happens to them. If there were a vaccine or a treatment for the disease, your sense that things are overblown would make a lot more sense.

scottva

BINGO

amerigirl

Ace, how could the media report it? They are not given that info. Do you think that reports are going to be running to certain stores and asking? What would you suggest for people that are older and have to legally go to work to pay for their meds or food because their business is essential? They can not collect unemployment because their business is open. The covidiots that think they are invincible and it couldn’t hit them or their families are going to be the ones that cause this country to close for a second time. Yep at some point ‘WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE !1!!1!11’ (keep your finger on the shift key and you won’t get 1’s) at some point. It’s not up to you covidiots to make that choice by being reckless.

ace10

How do we know there are outbreaks at AMZN warehouses? How do we know that there are outbreaks at meat processing facilities? Per usual, your density knows no limits.

amerigirl

Ace you really don’t know how we know about Amazon and processing places? Amazon closed some places because of the virus and said so. Other locations it has been employees. In the meat plants it was the unions. ………………and you talk about other people’s density. What did you think it was?

scottva

Where is this passion when it comes to drunk drivers, overdoses, and the like? How can we non-politicians ever survive without being told what to do, how do it and when? Personal accountability. Pay close attention the news around the Kung Flu, very rarely does any of the messaging remain the same for a single news cycle. Read/watch beyond CNN, MSNBC, FOX or others. Just because some person making big bucks telling you the news doesn't mean is 100% factual, especially with the Kung Flu. Nexgt thing you'll be telling us is that Bill Gates is a saint and the only one who cares about a vaccine, well him and that little guy Fauci.

amerigirl

That passion is in a different section, this article Why do you feel the need to make racist remarks about the virus? Don't you realize that enough Asian Americans are getting beat-up, spit on and threatened already? Some of those families have been in the country since their ancestors helped build the railroad across America. Now you badmouth people that are working for a cure, what is wrong with you?

Of course, then people from the hard-hit areas like Loudoun will drive to the other areas that are open and just like that the areas where it wasn't too bad will suddenly get worse. Look to Georgia to see how that works...

springerdad

Please stay in your house until at least 2022.

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