Coronavirus Briefing / Goodfriend

Loudoun County Health Director Dr. David Goodfriend, at the microphone, discusses preventive health measures against coronavirus at a March 10 COVID-19 briefing. He is flanked by other county officials.

Loudoun County's COVID-19-related death toll has surpassed 100 people.

Two more deaths were reported Wednesday, bringing the total number of deaths to 101 since the coronavirus pandemic began, according to the Virginia Department of Health.

Seventy-two of the deaths have come in victims aged 80 or older; 18 were between the age of 70 and 79; six were between 60 and 69; three were between 50 and 59; and one was between 40 and 49. One victim's age was not reported.

There was more bad news related to the pandemic on Wednesday, with 61 new local cases reported, the second-highest daily count in July. There were 62 new cases reported on July 4.

There have been 4,519 confirmed cases in Loudoun overall, an increase in 237 over the past week.

Loudoun has also topped the 300 hospitalizations mark, reporting 301 as of Wednesday. There have been 12 new hospitalizations reported in the past two days.

As for testing, the county's seven-day average in percent positivity stood at 6.3 percent on July 11 – the last date for which data was available – up only slightly from a low of 6.1 percent a few days earlier.

Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D) on Tuesday said he’s ramping up enforcement of a mask mandate and social distancing measures at restaurants and stores because he’s concerned about a rising number in cases, particularly among young people, in areas near the state’s beaches.

Northam said the state is doing well overall but he wants to avoid a spike in cases that other southern states, like Texas and Florida, are currently experiencing.

As of Tuesday, Virginia had reported nearly 73,000 cases of the virus and nearly 2,000 deaths.

For most people, the coronavirus causes mild or moderate symptoms that clear up within weeks. For some, especially older adults and those with existing health problems, it can cause more severe illness and even be fatal.

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Alan Suderman of The Associated Press contributed to this report.

(110) comments

springerdad

This is sad. So many lives lost.

What went wrong at the Virginia nursing home with the most coronavirus cases

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/annandale-healthcare-center-coronavirus-nursing-home/2020/07/16/42b9fcce-c2bb-11ea-b178-bb7b05b94af1_story.html

Voltaire

Springerdad--I totally agree with you. I lost my dad to COVID-19 at one of these "long term care facilities" here in Loudoun County on May 26 and I know firsthand what that article discussed. The lack of response by both the County of Loudoun and Commonwealth of Virginia in responding to these situations is utterly disgraceful to say the very least. I am very sorry for those individuals identified in that article who lost their lives. I hope that their families will find peace/solace during their grieving for their loved ones. I am still trying to do that myself with my situation.

Peregrinesea

Two things: All those people crowding around the health director with no masks on. Great image of stupidity.

Second: After reading the comments, I'm ashamed of the people of Loudoun County. The death toll lists ages. It doesn't list sex nor does it list ethnicity. I would be willing to bet that most deaths were people of color.(I do know the first death was a white female teacher who exposed herself through her sense of responsuibility to the community.) Meanwhile the detractors of mask wearing touch on every conspiracy theory out there. Well, here's one for you. All these anti- masking and not such thing as Covid, are a chinese/Russian plot to expose as msny Americans as possible to the virus. For those who don't die, there remains a myriad of medical problems: fatigue, bloddclottinng, heart disease, lung damage, etc. (It's in the medical literature. Try reading for a change). Not only will rampant illness overwhelm our medical infrastructure, it will also leave a lasting legacy of illness for people of all ages. The Chinese and the Russians both think long term. If it takes decades for our debilitated society to to fall to their schemes, they'll wait. So wearing a mask is stupid? You're giving away not only my life, but the future of your children and grsndchildren. Chew on that.

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@Peregrinesea

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sterlingcat

"All those people crowding around the health director with no masks on. Great image of stupidity."

Yeah, but it's a picture from March 10, before we knew that we should be wearing masks and standing 6+ feet apart from each other.

RoundHillRes

Based on the numbers in this county, why aren't the kids going back to school and playing sports in the fall? If you don't believe the science, maybe believe MATH. OPEN THE SCHOOLS and Live once again. I can't believe what a pathetic bunch of pansies are running this state and School Board. If you're elderly, continue to watch out for yourself.

loudouncommonsense

roundhillres: Another Covid Denier ....(it's not the illness or mortality of children per se, it's the children as vectors.

Mike Kay

RoundHead: Do you think there will be any adults in the schools? DUH! Are you volunteering to "save society" since you're such a patriot (who refuses to make the sacrifice of wearing a mask) as you're expecting the teachers to do? Put up or shut up!

LoudounClear

Who knew...alien beings from Planet MAGA have landed in Round Hill.

ace10

Are county flags still being displayed at half mast?

Voltaire

Ace10--they should be.

loudouncommonsense

The "Covid Deniers" ("it's only old people" "Americans are cowards" "open everything up" "it's a hoax"), Easy to spot: they are the ones that make sweeping statements, patriotic-sounding platitudes or suck-it-up puffery that contradicts both science and common sense.

Who are these people?

Because these individuals sound articulate and educated, I rule out the possibility of a third reason, so I can find only 2 possibilities:

1. They are agents and trolls of a political operation, or foreign influencers trying to weaken America

2. Conspiracy believers who want to destabilize an already-reeling economy and societal structure.

I have "argued" with commenters here about some of the aspects of our crisis and its solutions, but find most commenters seem to realize things are not going well in the country.

Its impossible for me to believe that the "Let 'em all die" folks care one whit about Loudouners, young and old and America in general.

Fracas

Baaaa

LoudounClear

We are on a sinking ship captained by an idiot. If we can just keep her afloat for six more months we can begin pumping water and righting the ship.

ace10

You're off by about year. Virginia's gubernatorial election is in November 2021.

LetFreedomRing

Ok, the statistics are clear (in fact, they’ve been clear for a long time) — Old people are practically the only ones vulnerable to COVID-19. Let them choose to self isolate if they want. Let the rest of us resume our normal lives. The fracking numbers speak for themselves. Why are our government leaders so brain dead?

Voltaire

LetFreedomRing--I believe the conversation is about COVID-19, not oil and gas exploration (fracking). The next to the last sentence is wrong.

LetFreedomRing

Voltaire - My bad. I get pretty heated about fracking (it’s a touchy subject) and mistakenly posted under the wrong article :D

Voltaire

LetFreedomRing--No problem. Yeah, I understand that fracking is another one of those topics that can ignite passions on both sides.

Penguin

Why don’t you folks who think the virus is nothing just wear your freaking masks and then STFU?

loudouncommonsense

Mr. Dickinson, do tell. Why don't you just explain how science is manipulating us instead of just launching a critical comment. But first, provide your vitae so that we can understand the training and professional experience upon which you are basing your declarations.

David Dickinson

While serious, COVID doesn't deserve the panicked hysteria it is producing. You sheeple don't realize how you are being manipulated. Actually, I'm embarrassed at the cowardice of Americans. We are better than this!

Mike Kay

David Dickins: Ok, so with your conspiracy theory is there a motive? It's amazing how easily people can be duped out of money so easily yet cook up these great conspiracy theories with zero motives. LOL

Mike Kay

Do any of the contrarians think that we have some geographical immunity to Covid? Are the BIG THREE states just unlucky? There's absolutely no correlation between our extended shut down and success? Time for a reality check.

Mike Kay

DavidDickens: I'm embarrassed by Americans who think that wearing a mask is an infringement on their liberty. Do you think we're immune to what's happening in Florida, Texas and Arizona or do you just not believe what's being reported? If not, do you believe what our President, the most well known con man on earth, is saying? If so, you seriously need a psych evaluation.

Virginia SGP

We are not idiots. We can read Swiss reports that put the risk to kids at 1 in 300k. Or to those age 20-49 at 1 in 10k. And That includes those with underlying conditions.

Or the Dutch health ministry who recommends kids need not distance or wear masks.

It is really unforunate you appear so ignorant on the facts. Do you need assistance comprehending it?

Mike Kay

VA SGP: So does this mean that children will be teaching the school classes? Or maybe you'd like to volunteer?

Penguin

Are you a front line worker in the trenches? Guess it’s easy to feel safe when you’re a keyboard warrior.

LoudounClear

Well, right now we have a completely incompetent President who's given up in the fight against this disease so I understand your embarrassment for America. I feel it too.

LoudounPulse

99% of the deaths are of people over age 60 and 72% of those are over 80.

As terrible as it sounds, this virus only kills the old. So the policy should be

that everybody over age 60 needs to shelter in place, wear a mask, don't attend

gathers outside, social distance, etc.. For everybody under 60yrs old, enjoy life.

The odds of somebody under 60 dying from Covid is less than dying in a car crash

on the way to the doctor's office because you are worried about having the sniffles.

Mike Kay

LoudounPulse: Wow! Another 8th grade tough guy! LOL Are there 135K traffic fatalities in 4 months every year? If so, why are you striving for 135K more? Just more libertarian drivel.

Virginia SGP

Mike, COVID is no longer a pandemic by CDC data. You do understand 3,000K die every year, right?

Maybe you should spend time advocating for more protections for those over 80. At least you would appear semi-informed.

Mike Kay

VA SGP: Sorry, I didn't realize that the goal was to increase the annual death toll by 150K, or so, for something preventable.

LoudounPulse

5400 Americans die every day from a variety of issues (Heart Attacks, Car Crashes, Old Age, etc). The number of people who die from Covid is just a few percent in the grand scheme of things.

Voltaire

LP--Are you a virologist? How do you know what this virus is capable of? You don't, but hey, don't let that stop me from my "self-serving" interests. You do know that you do, as a citizen, have a responsibility to the community, no? Why should people over 60 have to be confined in "home detention" so that others can "enjoy life"?

loudouncommonsense

The tendency seems to be measuring today's statistics as if they would continue at the same rate no matter our community behavior, and often made in comparison to the usual flu epidemics.

The problem with schools opening willy nilly and employment without fairly extreme safe guards etc is that covid is not like the flu. It's contagion is explosive, with no cure and no prevention other than distancing, You can cite all the stats based on recent history, but as Texas, Florida, California have experienced, it only take a few events before cases rise uncontrollably and the health system is at over-capacity.

Loudoun can avoid that but people need to back off the pressure to move fast and stop the very sloppy and irresponsible categorizing victims as just the elderly. The potential vectors are everyone.

yellowbird

agree 100%

Virginia SGP

Did you mean to reference the mortality rate by age or the CDC statement that COVID is much less dangerous to kids than the flu? Here are the mortality stats by age. Over 65, watch out. Under 50, you are good.

if data offends your irrational, hysterical argument, apologies in advance:

5-9 years old: 0.0016% (1 in 60K)

10-19 years old: 0.00032% (1 in 300K)

20-49 years old: 0.0092% (1 in 10K)

50-64: 0.14%

65+: 5.6%

Overall: 0.64%

SweetShade

This is a NOVEL illness and more is being learned about it daily. Those statistics are dated and don’t tell the whole story. In Florida, on average 31% of children tested have been positive for COVID-19. The general positivity rate in Florida is only 11%. As of now, science has no explanation for these results. There is also a growing body of data that COVID-19 causes long-term damage even in those who were asymptomatic. So claiming that only the elderly need to be concerned is not true.

ExitRamp

Using YOUR numbers for mortality:

320,000,000 (population of the US) * .0064 (mortality rate) = 2,048,000 deaths.

Anyone have a problem with that??

ExitRamp

Wow. Common sense.

---> "It's contagion is explosive, with no cure and no prevention other than distancing,"

People seem to forget that the "limited numbers" of infection and death was arrived at by all states implementing some form of mitigation. Those numbers would be much much higher otherwise. What a surprise that after people claimed "what have we got to lose" 6 weeks ago, we are seeing surges and record-breaking numbers in numerous states.

It's all about the spread. 34% of the population is over 50 - those most susceptible to the serious effects of COVID-19. Allowing people under 50 to open up without following guidelines and getting tested regularly is a recipe for more failure. How many households have family members over 50?

This is not a seasonal flu for which we have an annual vaccine that is effective 50% of the time. There is no defense against COVID-19 - another reason we must continue some form of mitigation.

Simon

New England journal of medicine says masks useless.

springerdad

I suggest you read this.

The outbreak that didn’t happen: Masks credited with preventing coronavirus spread inside Missouri hair salon

Springfield, Mo., health officials braced for an outbreak. Now they say face coverings prevented one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/17/masks-salons-missouri/

David Dickinson

The peer-reviewed New England Journal of Medicine stated a month ago, "We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection.... The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic."

LoudounClear

Sorry, David, the mask is worn to keep you from spreading the disease to others. Not to protect you from the virus. Since no one knows who has it (in fact, some carry the virus without symptoms) the rational thing for all but sociopaths to do is to wear a mask. Sorry if that offends your libertarian, selfish approach to life but on this one most don't feel like indulging you.

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@LoudounClear

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@Simon

Please read the entire article before taking it out of context.

NEJM - July 9, 2020

"We understand that some people are citing our Perspective article (published on April 1 at NEJM.org)1 as support for discrediting widespread masking. In truth, the intent of our article was to push for more masking, not less. It is apparent that many people with SARS-CoV-2 infection are asymptomatic or presymptomatic yet highly contagious and that these people account for a substantial fraction of all transmissions.2,3 Universal masking helps to prevent such people from spreading virus-laden secretions, whether they recognize that they are infected or not"

Mike Kay

Simon: Actually, in their own words, "the intent or our article was to push for more masking, not less" https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2020836

downtownres

Which translates to 0.00023% of the Loudoun county population...

Let that sink in!

LoudounClear

Were you more articulate, what is it you're trying to say? That the 100 who died don't matter? That it's just such a small percentage we shouldn't be talking about it? I don't get it. Surely you're not a complete sociopath.

Voltaire

LoudounClear--I don't get it either. My dad was one of those 100 people who died from COVID-19. I can definitely say that he DID matter to me and my family. The same can be stated for the other 99 people who died from COVID-19. Those people mattered to their families. It is extremely disturbing to see how this "community" doesn't seem to give a toss about these people, including my dad, who were also residents of this community. It is all about self-serving people who don't give a fig about the community just what "inconveniences" them. That is utterly disgraceful, to put it politely.

Virginia SGP

So I gather you two will demand masks in perpetuity so thise in nusing homes can live in their beds without fear of flu, pneumonia or anything else? But wait, don't stop there. Demand nobody drive so there are no traffic accidents.

I am getting big money that those who died would not want to destroy the lives of the young people today. They would say "I had a good life, let them live too. I will protect myself."

Voltaire

VirginiaSGP—OK, did I say ANYTHING in my post about mask wearing? No, but don’t let that stop you from making unsubstantiated conjecture. The original poster rattled off a statistic and left the impression that these 100 people, including my dad, did not matter. The POINT that I am/was making is that to that initial poster is that those 100 people, which my dad is one of those, MATTERED. My post also did not say anything about mask wearing in perpetuity but hey since you are making warrantless speculation don’t let that stop you. I find it extremely disturbing that people in this “community” either cannot or will not understand that basic point that these people were fellow citizens in this community and they matter. No, as I said, this community is full of self-serving people who do not give a toss about the community, just what inconveniences them. That is simply wrong and utterly disgraceful. Is it that bloody difficult to follow BASIC hygiene? Wow, in one of the nation’s wealthiest counties, I would hope that people would be able to. While the science is debatable, there is nothing wrong with wearing a mask and following the six foot social distancing requirement. Are you God? How exactly do you “know” what those people, including my dad, would say? You don’t and that is simply repulsive that you have the AUDACITY to make such a statement.

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@downtownres

.025%. Dolt.

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@downtownres

---> "Which translates to 0.00023% of the Loudoun county population..."

WITH MITIGATION!

Let that sink in!

yellowbird

Do the same for Federal Contractors and Gov't employees. If you cannot report to work, get a new job. Get furloughed if you cannot report. Same goes across the board.

Mike Kay

yellowbird: So you'd be ok with 2 or 3 foreclosures on your street to "retaliate" against gov't employees because you don't have a job where you can work from home? Makes a lot of sense! (facepalm)

yellowbird

was just being sarcastic to the other post about teachers not wanting to return to work. Not OK with anyone losing a job. Only should be same standard for a safe workplace for people to return to, which includes teachers. Other countries (Germany, Norway, etc) ensured that schools were safe (cleaning, testing, etc.) and part of why successful in returning. Same goes for any workplace - ensure it is safe to return!

Virginia SGP

No workplace is 100% safe. Teachers know tgis going in. If you want to live in fear or have aserious vulnerability, you should consider switching careers. Kids do transmit flu reasonably well, unlike COVID. Do you think teachers should be able to work from home during flu season?

Voltaire

Yellowbird--okay, Federal employees, depending on the nature of their job, can telework from home. Further, the same can be done by Federal Contractors.

loudouncommonsense

"Loudoun sheep?" At least real sheep are vaccinated; we got nothing

David Dickinson

And they are delicious too.

BobOhneiserEsq

Very interesting - Local hospitals ONLY report hospitalizations of residents? They don't report total hospitalizations for Covid? Or is it possible that the number being reported as "ALL" Loudoun residents is actually people who were hospitalized in Loudoun hospitals. which is assumed to be Loudoun residents. It makes a nice headline but the fact is questionable IMHO. :-) Is there an agenda being served here - scare the public as if keeping schools closed from in-person classes while still paying all the LCPS staff is justified!!! :-) Has anyone considered that if LCPS indeed closes schools as the LEA suggests ALL the staff will be furloughed? DETAILS!!!

Mike Kay

BobOEsq: I hope you don't "practice" law for fees if you believe there's some "master plot" by the "gubmint" to reduce tax revenue resulting from business closures. Maybe read your comments before hitting "Post Comment" in the future. LOL

Virginia SGP

Mike, you comment is a non sequitur. LEA teachers want to get paid and not do their jobs - teach in a school. LEA used to relentlessly criticize online charters. Now they are demanding that same model for them without resulting reductions in pay (no need for locals to lead "distance" learning).

Sometimes we all need a do over. Why don't you try again for 90% credit. And it is spelled government. Did you learn to spell in LCPS?

Voltaire

Virginia SGP--I would think twice before making a snide comment about one's ability to spell. Your first sentence is wrong as the second word should be your not you. The proper sentence is "Mike, your comment is a non sequitur." Do you need a do over and try again for 90% credit?

Mike Kay

Virginia SGP: Tough guy! Are you as much of an armchair warrior regarding sending our troops in to be killed in pointless conflicts, because they knew the risks? Pathetic response, as usual.

bk313

There's 5 times the number of deaths in Fairfax. I think Loudoun County is lucky.

LoudounPulse

Fairfax is 3x larger than Loudoun. Statistically they will have more cases and deaths.

This metrics on this virus are simple. If you are old, you are at the highest risk of complications and/or death. If you are under 50, almost nobody will die and those infected will experience next to no symptoms.

drttp24

90 of the 100 deaths are people over 80. 72 of the deaths are over 80. So...shelter the older people.

Wear a mask. Teachers and students go to school. Test the kids with symptoms.

413,000 LoCo residents and 100 deaths. All deaths are tragic. But our county officials want more control.

Stop the madness

Mike Kay

drttp24 must be a "right to lifer"...for fetuses only.

Mike Kay

drttp24: More control of what? Idiots who refuse to wear masks? I'm all for that! Gov't exists to protect responsible people from irresponsible people and sociopaths...like anti maskers. BTW, the deaths are tragic...and so are the $150K hospital bills and lifelong complications. Take off your blinders and look at the big picture...you know, like a grown up?

Virginia SGP

So all "deaths are tragic"? Why don't you do this. Lock yourself in your house until the national death toll per year is less than 150k. Deal?

Voltaire

Virginia SGP--yes, all deaths are tragic. I am thoroughly disgusted that that point is EVEN being debated here. That statement is just another prime example of the self-serving attitude found within this "caring community". Utterly disgraceful to say the very least....

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@drttp24

---> "Test the kids with symptoms."

You mean after it's too late? Asymptomatic infections occur in 40% of people. Test all the kids. Isolate kids with symptoms until test results confirm.

---> "Teachers...go to school"

30% of teachers are over 50 - many with co-morbidities. Given no evidence of comprehensive guidelines and uncertain compliance from children, would you want to return to school?

---> "But our county officials want more control."

No. The virus wants more control.

Master Bedroom

This is not news. We don't act like this with the annual flu.

What is news is the lack of leadership from Goodfriend. He is rarely seen and rarely heard.

Mike Kay

Master Bedroom (?, sounds like a personal problem). Does the seasonal flu produce 130K deaths in 4 months? Yeah, I thought now. Nice try...for an 8th grader. Maybe distance learning really ISN'T so great.

Voltaire

Master Bedroom--COVID-19 is definitely not the annual flu. It is a new type of virus that the medical community does not have a good handle on at the moment. As to your last point, I totally agree that the Commonwealth of Virginia, through the Virginia Department of Health, and the Loudoun County Department of Health have shown very little in terms of effort in trying to mitigate this virus.

Master Bedroom

Agreed Mr V. There are still many unknowns about this virus. We have enough data to support the fact that older people or those with underlying medical conditions are our most vulnerable to this virus. We need to protect them. We also have enough data to support the fact that school aged youth handle this much better with very, very little risk of death or even hospitalization.

National virus mortality has been declining since mid April.

Goodfriend is in a picture dated in mid March. Has anyone seen or heard from him much since then?

He is an empty suit and provides no value to Loudoun County.

David Dickinson

Loudoun sheep are stupid.

springerdad

Gov. Northam needs to act quickly or we will all be back in lockdown before we know it.

CindyLou

He is acting quickly!!! People are not listening! Everyone should wear a mask. If you go in a store and you don't have a mask and practice social distancing, you are told to leave the store. Many businesses are not enforcing the mask or distancing.

Fiscalconservative

he is not acting quickly, he allowed the protests where people did not practice social distancing and many did not wear masks. How can the citizens of Virginia take the Governor seriously when he does not apply same rules for everyone?

Mike Kay

FiscalConservative (oh really? Must mean you don't support tax breaks for billionaires on borrowed money, right?). No one "allows" protesters to protest...well except for the first amendment. Get over your racism.

springerdad

Mike Kay - So if the first amendment allows people to protest during a pandemic does that make it right? To me it is just as stupid as people claiming their rights are being violated by someone requiring to wear a mask.

Do you really think what is going on in Portland is in public's interest during a pandemic?

Serious question with no political bias.

springerdad

Mike Kay - You really need to stop getting so defensive. I hope you don't act like this on the job since you would be a horrible person to work with or for.

In NY yes the govmit is allowing protests will cancelling all other events so yes it is sanctioned.

Donnie T is a useless dog doodie and I spend little time worrying about him. I suggest you do the same it may make you a nice poster.

springerdad

I want him to follow NJ and NY's lead in regards to people coming into the state from hotbed areas. Shutting down the beaches would also help.

Mike Kay

springer: I don't recommend that anyone protest during a pandemic. What's your point? That the "gubment" does? If you want to complain about behavior that's gov't/president sanctioned, complain about Don the Cons campaign rallies. Those are the only mass gatherings that are sanctioned by anyone official. Oh, and nice try at an equivalence. Maybe next time.

sterlingVA

Wow! 93% of the known cases in Loudoun County didn't even require hospitalization. And we don't even know how many people have contracted the virus and recovered from it without even knowing. That number would most likely bring the recovery rate "without hospitalization" very close to 99% or greater. For this, we are all in a panic.

Lawman

I hate when people with limited intellect try to make a statistical point. There is a reason smart people go to school and study things like infectious diseases and statics. So you ask do we listen to morons like SterlingVA or people who actually know that the reason we take these precautions is not about how many people don’t get sick, it’s about the number that do and the ability to overwhelm our healthcare system.

sterlingVA

Dear Lawman, There is no need to be insulting. The data is right there in the article for anybody who wants to pay attention. 301 hospitalizations out of 4,519 cases equals 6.67%. That means 93.3% of the "known" cases in Loudoun County have NOT required hospitalization. Just a simple fact.

Qwertyuiop

A 6.7% hospitalization rate is extremely high for a highly contagious disease.

sterlingVA

A 6.7% hospitalization rate is only for the "known" cases. It is well documented that CDC believes most cases of recoveries remain unreported, drastically reducing the true hospitalization rate well below 6.67%. These are just facts.

springerdad

The CDC is estimating that the rate of infection may be 10x what is reported. If that is the case take 301 and divide that by 45,190 and the rate drops to less then 1%

CDC chief says coronavirus cases may be 10 times higher than reported

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/25/coronavirus-cases-10-times-larger/

Jeanne T

"Lawman" doesn't like statistics.

Jeanne T

Hey, Law "man", the article is full of statistical points.

countyresident

None of these people are wearing masks. The county building has signs all over the place - were these people actually keeping 6 feet away from each other the entire time they were together? Impossible. Such BS in this county

Mike Kay

Were you there or are you relying on a photo with no date associated with it? Regardless, try to avoid the 8th grade "he did it, so why can't I?" gambit. I know it's SOOOOOOOOOOOO difficult... :)

KK153

I think it's more the blatant hypocrisy people take issue with... "You need close your business, but since I'm a gubmint paid parasite I don't see a problem with that" kinda thing

countyresident

Mike Kay, I guess you didn’t see the March 10 date either, huh? Why so nasty? Feel better commenting like a jerk?

Mike Kay

Ok, so comparing early March to now regarding masks is relevant? Just shut up and wear a mask, ok?

Jeanne T

"Loudoun County Health Director Dr. David Goodfriend, at the microphone, discusses preventive health measures against coronavirus at a March 10 COVID-19 briefing."

The date was March 10. It says so right under the photo.

countyresident

mike Kay I wear a mask all the time. The rest of us wish you would shut up yourself since you spew nothing but nonsense. Hope you feel like a jerk again.

Frisc010

The photo is from March 10, 2020

Lawman

Hey dipstick no date on the picture. So what does that tell you. You need help truly.

countyresident

Hey dipstick lawman did you miss the March 10 date on the photo too? Way to go genius

Jeanne T

"Loudoun County Health Director Dr. David Goodfriend, at the microphone, discusses preventive health measures against coronavirus at a March 10 COVID-19 briefing."

"March 10". That's a date.

ace10

Photo caption clearly states March 10. I guess these folks didn't know about precautions at that point in time?

countyresident

Good point. No one knew what was coming then, but some will still complain that nothing was done soon enough. Any minute now...

md

I have been surprised by the mischaracterization of the article entitled Universal Masking in the Covid-19 Era published in April in the New England Journal of Medicine. The authors of the article were promoting wearing masks. Here is their letter to the editor of the NEJM asserting their conclusions and clarifying their argument:

Editor’s Note: This letter was published on June 3, 2020, at NEJM.org.

CORRESPONDENCE

Universal Masking in the Covid-19 Era

TO THE EDITOR:

We understand that some people are citing our Perspective article (published on April 1 at NEJM.org)1 as support for discrediting widespread masking. In truth, the intent of our article was to push for more masking, not less. It is apparent that many people with SARS-CoV-2 infection are asymptomatic or presymptomatic yet highly contagious and that these people account for a substantial fraction of all transmissions.2,3 Universal masking helps to prevent such people from spreading virus-laden secretions, whether they recognize that they are infected or not.4

We did state in the article that “wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection,” but as the rest of the paragraph makes clear, we intended this statement to apply to passing encounters in public spaces, not sustained interactions within closed environments. A growing body of research shows that the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission is strongly correlated with the duration and intensity of contact: the risk of transmission among household members can be as high as 40%, whereas the risk of transmission from less intense and less sustained encounters is below 5%.5-7 This finding is also borne out by recent research associating mask wearing with less transmission of SARS-CoV-2, particularly in closed settings.8 We therefore strongly support the calls of public health agencies for all people to wear masks when circumstances compel them to be within 6 ft of others for sustained periods.

Michael Klompas, M.D., M.P.H.

Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA

Charles A. Morris, M.D., M.P.H.

Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Boston, MA

Erica S. Shenoy, M.D., Ph.D.

Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, MA

Since publication of their article, the authors report no further potential conflict of interest.

This letter was published on June 3, 2020, at NEJM.org.

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