Postmaster General Louis DeJoy of United States Postal Service has been under scrutiny for his recent changes impacting deliveries for Americans, benefits for workers and mail-in ballot applications for the November election.

On Tuesday, he suspended any changes that could impact the General Election until after the contest “to avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail.”

DeJoy said retail hours at post offices will not change and mail processing equipment and blue collection boxes will remain in place despite earlier reports. The postmaster general added that mail processing facilities will be open, and overtime will continue to be approved as needed.

DeJoy’s announcement came the same day several U.S. lawmakers met outside of the service’s headquarters in Washington D.C. to discuss concerns. Among them were Congresswoman Jennifer Wexton (D-Va.-10th) and U.S. Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) and other Democrats from the region. 

U.S. Rep. Wexton, who represents Loudoun County, said she heard from more than 3,000 constituents in less than 24 hours about their medication and deliveries being delayed. She said she also heard from letter carriers being told to leave first-class mail behind.

Most constituents said they use USPS to pay bills, stay in touch with loved ones, vote, receive prescriptions and conduct business operations, according to Wexton.

“Clearly Louis DeJoy has messed with the wrong community,” Wexton said. “It's obviously touched a nerve, and they got caught red-handed, as [House Majority] Leader [Steny] Hoyer said. So, I'm glad that they're backing off making these changes, but you'll forgive me for being a little bit skeptical.”

Warner, who compared the current situation to the story in the 1997 film "The Postmaster," said actions to delay mail may have impact on voting in Virginia, which starts as early as Sept. 19.

"If they're not able to vote because you've got a president of the United States that is trying to do everything legal and otherwise to impede mail-in or absentee voting, then you're seeing an effort to try to steal the election,” Warner said.

The postmaster general, who was formerly a Republican fundraiser and remains close Trump ally, called the USPS “a broken business model” before starting on June 15. He later cut back overtime and directed workers to leave shipments behind if they are late to distribution centers, according to multiple reports.

DeJoy is expected to testify in Congress about some of his actions. His former company, XPO, is a contractor for USPS, and he’s also purchased stock for the service’s competitor, Amazon.

The House of Representatives will return to session on Aug. 22 to consider legislation to protect the USPS from political interference and ensure that it has funding and support aimed at preventing delays and better serving the public.

“If Louis DeJoy and Donald Trump are serious about protecting the postal service, they will give their blessing to this legislation, and Donald Trump will sign it into law when it passes the Senate,” Wexton said in closing.

In the commonwealth Tuesday, Gov. Ralph Northam (D) proposed efforts to protect voter rights by permitting localities to use drop-off boxes or locations.

Northam is also proposing to set aside $2 million for prepaid return postage on all absentee ballots, as well as a measure allowing Virginians to fix an error on their absentee ballot. Currently, applications with errors are discarded.

Northam unveiled the measures during a virtual joint meeting with state lawmakers. The proposals will be considered by legislators during the special General Assembly session that started on Tuesday.

“As we continue to navigate this pandemic, we must take additional steps to make it easier to vote, not harder,” Northam said in a prepared statement. “With these measures, we will protect public health and ensure Virginians can safely exercise their right to vote in the November election. Whether you put your ballot in the mail or vote in-person, voting will be safe and secure in our commonwealth.”

On Tuesday, Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring (D) joined other attorney generals in challenging the Trump Administration’s operational changes at the USPS. The lawsuit states it impacts vote-by-mail elections, seniors and veterans, asserting that the changes made to the USPS are unlawful and seeking to block to moves.

“There is absolutely no plausible justification for why these changes were made,” Herring said in a prepared statement. “Even more importantly, these changes affect more than just voting – Virginians are having trouble getting life-saving medications, bills and other payments could be late, and other necessary goods might not arrive on time."

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Science Can Save Us

I enjoy Amerigirl's comments for the most part. She rarely resorts to spicing up her comments with lies or bogus stats or the latest fever dream from Rush, Sean or Qanon. So cut the girl some slack. If we all emulating her fact-based opinions, the quality of this discussion would improve. You don't have to agree with her but if you want to take issue with her comments (beyond the number of them), then stick to verifiable facts and have at it.

amerigirl

DeJoy should be disqualified for conflict of interests. He still owns a multimillion-dollar stake in his former company XPO Logistics, a United States Postal Service contractor. He said he would get rid of his shares of Amazon since they were a competitor but when he did so he also purchased stock options giving him the right to buy new shares of Amazon at a price much lower than their current market price. He still has a deep interest in their wellbeing for his futures. XPO. acquired DeJoy's company, New Breed Logistics, for $615 million and the USPS board of governors noted that New Breed "was a contractor to the U.S. Postal Service for more than 25 years, but failed to mention XPO's ongoing ties to the USPS. If a democrat did this we would never hear the end of it.

mrv52

Pretty funny you didn't know he was a logistics expert 2 hours ago and now you say he should be "disqualfied" because of conflicts of interest. You may want to sit the rest of this one out.

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mrv52

Back in the office I see. Does your employer know you are stealing time from them posting on social media from 9-5?

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Voltaire

Mrv52—you are making several unwarranted assumptions. First, how do you know if “amerigirl” is employed? She has stated that she is retired. If she is retired, then she wouldn’t have an employer to report to or would care about her posting on this site. Second, you are assuming that the comments section of the LTM qualifies as “social media”. That premise is questionable as newspapers are considered to be traditional media (including their online editions).

amerigirl

Volt, I think mrv is probably doing that exact thing at his/her job and is passing the buck. People who make accusations like that are often guilty of the offense they accuse others of.

Voltaire

AG--good point.

ABee

OFF Topic, but many in this group posted on the Fritz Thomas drowning.

Mr Cline? LTM?

Can you tell us why the comments were disabled?

Investigation into Fitz Thomas drowning ongoing; family, friends lead march, call for public safety changes

By Nathaniel Cline ncline@loudountimes.comUpdated 12 hrs ago

On Aug. 16, the day the late Fitz Thomas would have been 17 years old, the rising Loudoun County senior should have been balancing working at a local grocery store with swimming and enjoying the sounds of late Jamaican musician Garnett Silk, his family said

Chris McHale

I would guess it was because of the personal attacks on a mother who recently lost her son.

amerigirl

There were people lying on the comment section saying things like CPR was not administered when 911 was told they were doing it in the call and nobody jumped in to save him, but he was pulled out by a friend, also implying that he didn't know how to swim and there were no adults there when there were. They used those lies to try and blame the parents. Cheap low shot.

Barry Hussein

Probably a phone call from that beloved organization, the NAACP

amerigirl

What a racist reply. along with so many others you have had. “race baiting good pastor” “blackface” calling the NAACP “worthless, incompetent group “. Not to mention your conservative callous remarks calling a grieving mother being “pathetic”

amerigirl

New conspiracy theory?

LoudounClear

Ever notice how worked up some people get when a show that they enjoy gets cancelled for bad ratings? How could that be, they say, all my friends love that show. Same thing happening now with Trump supporters...

Loudoun Observer

It continues to amaze me how the left can be triggered instantaneously by a few misguided individuals in the democratic party and in the left wing media. Three weeks ago not one of them cared about the USPS, today Trump is trying to ruin the world by not giving them an extra $25B. Thankfully the Postmaster General has said that they will delay their efforts TO NOT LOSE SO MUCH MONEY EVERY DAY until after the election this year, which means the faux outrage will find a new target by the weekend. Can't wait to see what's next.

amerigirl

You mean no one cared BEFORE some idiot was pulling sorting machines out and creating all the problems with the mail? What was there to care about then? Why do you think at least 21 states are suing him? Trump does not have the power of funding the post office. It says right in the constitution that the power belongs to congress, see the problem? The POG also said he is not restoring the PO back to normal.

jbsets

My mom is 80. My stepdad is 85. My dad is 84. My stepmom is 83. They all have computers but they only use them for email, shopping, and some games. NONE pay bills online. My grandmother turns 101 today (Aug 20), still lives on her own, reecives and pays her own bills, and has never used a computer. All of them receive their bills through the post office and mail them back through the postal service. They get magazines to read in their retirement through the mail. Same with newsletters and solicitations that they will probably never answer. My grandmother sends cards and she loves to get cards and letters from all of us, mostly because her hearing was lost to a stroke 30 years ago. Phone calls are difficult for her. Even I get useful "stuff" through the post office. Rakuten only mails your payment via check through the mail (And I highly recommend joining. It's no joke. In 8 years I have received more than $14,000!) Take away the postal service will hurt all of my family members and others like them and many others who operate the same way. HOWEVER, the USPS needs an overhaul. Too many post offices in some lightly populated areas. We don't need Saturday delivery. We don't need all those sale/marketing circulars. Where my mother & grandmother live, the total population is approx 15,000 people with very few businesses and no govt agencies or corporations. They have FOUR zip codes each with its own post office. My mom could easily walk to two of them from her home. That's excessive and ridiculous. Zips 20152, 20151, 22030 (one is Loudoun and two are Fairfax) have a total population of 118,000 people and I don't know how many businesses, govt agencies, corporations that all get mail but are not included in the population figures, has ONE post office that service all three of those zips. A compromise would be great and could be accommodated. As far as voting by mail, even without the pandemic, why not? I've been lucky that I have only had to wait in a long line once in 15 years. To vote in person you need lots of volunteers who have to be trained. Lots of machines that need to be maintained and we have to hope that they don't malfunction. With the pandemic, the number of polling volunteers is drastically reduced because MOST OF THEM ARE SENIORS, the most at risk group so they aren't volunteering. We are going to lose at least a minimum of a third of the polling places, probably a lot more than that. The lines will be ridiculous. We could be in line for hours. Some people can't stand in a line that long....certainly not any of my elderly relatives or my brother with MS. They would be in town so they wouldn't qualify for absentee absentee according to Trump's definition (videos and Tweets abound to prove that.) Are they supposed to bring chairs with them? What if it's really cold or raining or snowing? For me to commit mail in vote fraud, I would have to run all over the neighborhood and grab the ballots when no one is looking. How many do you think I could grab before it's too late? The country had more malfunctioning voting machines and hanging chads than mail in voter fraud. It's too late for this election, but maybe in the future they could have a mail in deadline that is earlier than the in person voting day so that most mail in votes will be counted by election day. That would take care of waiting for days or weeks for the final results. What people fail to remember that ALL voting in early US history was done by "mail" because people didn't live near centralized areas. Inaugurations were originally held in April so that there was time to receive the votes, count them, hop on a horse and take the results to the capitol of the US, count those results, etc. Then they had to get back on horses to get the results to everyone. Technology has significantly changed all of that. If we can do absentee voting via mail, why not all voting for those who want it? If mail in could be fraud, so could absentee, right? Bottom line, the USPS needs an overhaul. That should be fun because of the law that requires the postal service to prefund the retirement pension. A HUGE percent of the income goes directly into that pension fund and it is required by law. It leaves very little for operations. With emails, faxing, scans, overnight delivery services, the income from postage also took a hit. Hopefully someone can come up with a plan in the future, but it won't be in the near future. Could take years with all the fighting among our lawmakers.

Squaks11

JB - That is great for your parents that they do their own bills. We have set everything up for my Mom and her Husband to pay automatically every month. That ensures that nothing gets missed and the power or electricity is not turned off by accident. We also check in on her accounts (they not rich) to make sure they have no fallen victims to any scammers. If they do get a one off bill my brother takes care of it for them.

We need to follow the system that Washington State has developed for voting and stop worrying about in person voting.

You are right overhaul the USPS to become more efficient and make sure it does it's job properly. The guy in charge may be on the right path but the changes should have never been made right before an election.

Please use paragraphs in the future it is a great post but so hard to read : )

amerigirl

Squaks, what happens if your parents get an email saying their payment didn't go through? Do they know to call someone or how to fix it? I tried that with my mom and had problems with verizon and switched back, just wondering

Squaks11

AG - They usually try to handle it themselves but if not one of us kids(not sure I can call myself that anymore) gets on a call with them to help out. The biggest problem was when they wanted to change banks and all their auto payments had to be updated.

Mom is developing some short term memory loss so we making sure nothing slips like her meds, appointments and bills.

amerigirl

Squaks, I can sympathize. My mom would get so frustrated she would be in tears. I hope we both survive this, good luck.

Squaks11

AG - Not easy to see them this way.

JustMe

Set it up so the email comes to you, not your parents. Then you can look into it.

amerigirl

Just me. I wish I could have it sent to me but she is always checking to make sure they are "dong her right". But you gave me a great idea and now I have her email and password and go into her mail when she has questions, next it will be for her to give me passwords for accounts I need to check, she has them set on auto-fill. So settings here I come.

amerigirl

the USPS needs an overhaul.Okay but why are they trying to do that in a pandemic when people are more reliant on it for medications, social security and pension checks or when legal document still need to be filed? Why are they doing it right before an election?

LetsBreal

State Superior Court Judge Ernest Caposela ruled Wednesday that the new election will be held in November, The Associated Press reported. Alex Mendez appeared to have won the May 12 special election, but the U.S. Postal Service’s law enforcement branch said hundreds of mail-in ballots had been found in a Paterson mailbox.

The Passaic County Board of Elections ultimately discounted 800 ballots. In June, Mendez and Paterson Council Vice President Michael Jackson were charged with voter fraud.

Source: https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/512789-judge-orders-new-election-in-new-jersey-race-trump-cited-for-mail-in

https://www.newsbreak.com/new-jersey/paterson/news/1590377329669/more-jersey-democrats-caught-committing-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots

amerigirl

and they got caught. just like the ones working on behalf of Republican candidate Mark Harris in NC.

LetsBreal

According to you, it's not a problem and it doesn't happen!

amerigirl

Anyone breaking the law is a problem, but it shows that there is election security and they will get caught. At least I"m not telling lies about donors to the parties, I forgot to mention, you think that Soros gave a lot to dems, look at how much Sheldon Adleson and the Koch bros have given to republicans, None of that i dark money though.

LetsBreal

How does it show you they will be caught? They were caught in this case. How many times has fraudulent election activity not been caught?

amerigirl

Let's it shows because they were caught, there are many safety precautions taken with ballots. Like I said before it has been investigated many times and they can't find anything. All trump wants is voter suppression because he could never win the popular majority. Don't take my word for it, take his. When making it easier to vote; “The things they had in there were crazy. They had things, levels of voting that if you’d ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again,” Trump said during an appearance on Fox & Friends.Without the additional money, he said, the Postal Service won’t have the resources to handle a flood of ballots from voters who are seeking to avoid polling places during the coronavirus pandemic.

“If we don’t make a deal, that means they don’t get the money,” Trump told host Maria Bartiromo. “That means they can’t have universal mail-in voting; they just can’t have it.” Find me one study where they have found rampant voter fraud like trump describes, when even his own voter fraud team couldn't find any.

Loudooun independent

Protest in person. Vote in person.

amerigirl

Vote in person? Do it just like there is no pandemic and we don't have all those "my right not to wear a mask" people in Loudoun. Most protesters wear masks and you won't be standing next to them for hours, you can move around.

LoudounPulse

I got mail every day. I don't know what everybody is crying about.

amerigirl

I live in Loudoun too and I and my neighbors have missed 4 days of mail. They are not in a row, but still missed.

AnnaB

Mail is taking a lot longer than it used to. This is a problem for people whose medications are shipped USPS - but as long as you are fine, LoudounPulse, I guess that's all that matters...

LoudounPulse

I order meds the other day online and they arrived without issue. Maybe mail is just slowed down for known Democrat Party Sympathizers.

amerigirl

SO glad you got your meds. You must be privileged because that is not true for many others. The largest problem is in the midwest, and they are red states. I have already had my online pharmacy call to see if they are coming on time and she said they will continue to monitor the situation. If they have problems doing their business who do you think they will be throwing money at for the election?

mopar19

What should be discussed is how the post office bleeds money and is over 50 billion in debt. How about raising the cost of postage to actually cover the amount to deliver the mail. Instead we’re stuck dumping money into the bottomless abyss. Mail should be delivered mon- Friday. They need to have few structure like Fedex and ups. Not this socialist postage fee that takes congress to increase 1 cent.

AnnaB

You might want to research that a little more. The USPS only started "losing" money after the 2006 legislation that required them to pre-fund retirement health costs - unlike any other business.

mopar19

That’s because companies like fedex stopped offering pensions in 2002 and switched to a 401k. The usps hasn’t come close to making a profit. So what have they been doing since 2006 to remedy that. How about cost cutting and raising rates to keep up with inflation. Nope just rely on more govt. money. So now all of a sudden we need to cut them a blank check. It would be cheaper to have all the ballets mailed in with fedex and spend 25 bucks a letter.

ace10

The faux outrage is exhausting.

romano

a phony issue conjured up by today's radical Democrat party....the party of dead and imprisoned voters LOL

amerigirl

oblivious

Mike Kay

romano: As opposed to the neo confederate, billionaire tax break giving (at your expense), white nationalist pandering, GOP. You kooks crack me up!

LetsBreal

Oh c'mon now! Three separate transactions (a ballot request, ballot mailed to a person and ballot mailed back for counting) over the next 80 days will absolutely DESTROY the postal system. They just can't handle that volume, even though they handle loads of junk mail every day. Orange Man Bad !!!

amerigirl

Just like it has destroyed by Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah, and Washington? because hey have been voting primarily by mail for years. Those states existing, permanent automatic mail-in ballot systems. It works fine for them. USPS can handle the volume and could continue to if trump's appointee stops messing with it trying to protect trump. That's the problem with having "loyal" campaign donors (over 2 million$'s) ruining the govt instead of experienced people.

LetsBreal

Like George Soros and his $18,000,000,000 donations to democrats, progressives and leftists?

amerigirl

Let's was Sorros appointed to something, if so I missed that. I hope you realize that both parties have mega-donors,

LetsBreal

What does an appointment to something have to do with the price of tea in China?

amerigirl

Let's the price of tea? Like I said, DeJoy got the appointment because he was a donor so how does that compare to Soros? You are the one that brought it up, own it.

LetsBreal

You're complaining about "loyal" campaign donors and yet you don't care if someone throws $18 BILLION at your party through surrogate organizations, as long as it's for your party. Read a little on the history of Soros and his dark money. He attempts to collapse whole countries.

But hey, as long as "your guy" wins, right? That's all that matters.

You show me ANY mega-donor outside of your democrat party that plunks down $18 BILLION to steer elections, pack local races and push social justice outcomes.

Don't whine about campaign donors. Your party is the PINNACLE of sleaze funding.

Voltaire

LetsBReal—I actively follow George Soros, as well as other billionaire investors, and know his history, personal and professional. You are incorrect. George Soros made a series of very successful currency trades based on exchange rates. There is nothing wrong with that. It is no different than Jim Rogers, George Soros’ former partner, making sizable gains in commodities trades. That is how the markets should and do work. The Prime Minister of Malaysia tried that conspiracy theory about Soros trying to collapse the Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN) and that turned out to be false. The PM said so himself. Soros, however, does have his critics, such as Economist Paul Krugman. However, Krugman’s argument about Soros, while may be true, is not an illegal practice, per se.

amerigirl

Lets, you have a bit of a reading comprehension problem. First, I made the statement that “the problem with having "loyal" campaign donors (over 2 million$'s) ruining the govt instead of experienced people.” The PROBLEM if you can understand is that he was given the appointment just for being a mega-donor. Loyal is an adjective and not the main point how can you not see that? So, what is Soros plunked down money, did that get him an appointment? No he did not pay for a cushy government job. He was not awarded a position based on the money he gave.

Second, Soros has not thrown $18 BILLION to Democrats, that is BS anyway. He put that mount into his private non-profit Open Society Foundations. The foundation is pro-democracy around the world, not pro-democratic party. That might be confusing to you, but it means that much of that money went to countries that have a democratic system of government. If you think that it is dark money to support worldwide causes such as to combat authoritarianism, promote human rights, and support "marginalized" groups, including refugees, the LGBT community, and minorities, then you have a very skewed idea of what dark money is. How did that money steer elections? What are you whining about? Stop with whining about smething that you have gotten from the fake news sites you are on and learn the difference between a democratic nation and the democratic party of the US.

Loudoun Observer

So I'm sitting here looking at pictures of people out in the streets protesting in person saying they have to vote by mail?

VOLTON

People outside, socially-distanced and wearing masks. That's not the same as standing in line inside a school waiting to vote with the occasional no-mask Trump voter strutting around like there's no pandemic.

WesternSky

Well said. This is a completely manufactured issue.

amerigirl

Good grief, they admitted to it on TV. Aren't you up on the issues?

Mike Kay

Manufactured by Don the Con (as he said himself!) and his braindead, zombie, cult members.

amerigirl

They are saying they want their mail. All of it. Put the sorting machines back and server the public. I have had 4 days without mail. Others have had 2 weeks, no social security or pension check, no medications, or even the niceties like birthday cards. People have gotten more reliant on the mail with covid around. especially in the midwest were internet is spotty.

Stepup

So if you are right about poor mail service, the USPS isn’t the vehicle to rely on for an election, especially when democrat governments put unrealistic requirements on the USPS to process the ballots.

Must be the democrat want another fake scandal to pin on Trump.

amerigirl

The USPS should be able to handle mail in voting. If they can handle people sending out millions of Christmas cards what makes you think they shouldn’t be able to handle that? Families send out a lot more of those cards but few ballots per household. Pin it on trump? He came out and admitted it.

Squaks11

AG - Are you claiming that where you live in Loudoun you have not had mail delivered in the past 4 days?

amerigirl

No I am saying that nobody on our street had mail delivered on 4 separate days.I was waiting on meds the first time and asked if they had gotten mail and they said no.

Squaks11

ag - Gotcha! 4 days in a row would be much worse.

amerigirl

BTW setup, if you keep calling people posting here names you will continue to have your posts removed. If you do it to often there is a chance they may decide to ban you so you might want to think before you type.

amerigirl

No you are looking at a picture of a press conference where everyone except the person who is speaking at the time is wearing a mask.

LetsBreal

Hey Lawman... looks like the revolution is finally being televised !!

https://mobile.twitter.com/RayGarciahawaii/status/1295991588083163136

amerigirl

Yep even the cops up there said the ult right group the 3% were going to use that footage for the violence those extremest stirred up.

LetsBreal

It looks like the raccoon was enjoying being culturally enriched!

amerigirl

BTW twitter isn't the same as being televised. DUH

Mike Kay

I guess none of the alt rightees here ever order anything online...since they're "so modern". Amazon and others use the USPS (as does my business). This is just another case of rightees duped by their billionaire oligarchs into acting against their own self interested, and begging to pay more to sleazy profiteers. Pathetic.

KK153

I'll take "being duped" and making a choice over someone else making a choice "for my own good" anyway of the week.

Mike Kay

KK153 How's your comment relevant to this article? BTW, being duped looks good on you. Keep being a "freedumb" fighter and acting against your own self interest. Just don't infect anyone or it could get ugly.

KK153

yup...gettin' duped..al day, every day ....and laughing all the way to the bank Mikey... Make sure you follow the herd son... that's how you become super successful!

amerigirl

KK if you are taking ll the tweets and insane messages trump is putting out then yep you are getting duped everyday.

amerigirl

So what you are saying is you would take profits that benefit you no matter how unethical it is or how many are hurt by it and, and laughing all the way to the bank?

amerigirl

Did you just reply to your own reply???..........twice?

LetsBreal

Mike - ANYTIME funding is talked about WRT a government department, bureau, agency or office, it's always about one thing Funding oversized pensions. Big promises were made and they're unrealistic promises.

The private sector does not make the ridiculous promises that federal, state and local governments make and you know it; if they do, they go bankrupt. The PBGC cannot possibly back all the ridiculous promises dot gov has made over the decades.

You better get used to it, because there are a metric-s-ton of people who do not have pensions and retirement systems like Uncle Sham employees. That will get noticed really soon - with pitch forks, I'm afraid. The only "profiteers" are the SEIU, AFSCME, CALPERS, NYSCRF, NEA and public employees... and bubba is getting mighty aggravated on tax day.

BTW, today, we're printing 60 cents out of every dollar to pay for .gov. That means, we only collect 40 cents of it in taxes. The rest of it is put on the backs of future generations. You wanna cover it today?

Accountability

Mike Kay, might want to get up to speed on the woes of USPS, unless you're intentionally being partisan?

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-usps-rural-packages-deliveries-2020-5

https://www.gao.gov/key_issues/us_postal_service_financial_viability/issue_summary

https://www.rstreet.org/2015/08/17/four-charts-explain-the-postal-services-financial-struggles/

https://www.cagw.org/content/usps-model-failure

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-postal-service-is-struggling-but-not-because-of-the-mail/2012/07/19/gJQAmwAiwW_story.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2011/10/24/the-truth-about-the-post-offices-financial-mess.html

11 years of loss - reported in 2017: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/u-s-postal-service-marks-11-straight-years-of-financial-loss

amerigirl

Do any of those sites explain why they decided to do this leading up to an election and in the middle of a pandemic?

LetsBreal

Dejoy was appointed in MAY.

https://about.usps.com/newsroom/national-releases/2020/0807-pmg-modifies-organizational-structure.htm

“This organizational change will capture operating efficiencies by providing clarity and economies of scale that will allow us to reduce our cost base and capture new revenue,” said Postmaster General and CEO Louis DeJoy. “It is crucial that we do what is within our control to help us successfully complete our mission to serve the American people and, through the universal service obligation, bind our nation together by maintaining and operating our unique, vital and resilient infrastructure.”

amerigirl

Let's, Yes, it was May, so? Do you think we weren’t in a pandemic in May or that the pols weren’t campaigning? Real nice excuse they used but tell me exactly how any of what DeJoy did meets any of the message that was put out in that site. He has done just the opposite in order to help trump. His real mission was to slow the mail because trump knows if all the people vote he will lose. He has told so many lies about mail in voting, yet says certain places, Florida, North Carolina, of course red states. Another lie, just like saying there was no Russian collusion. Caught again. They are seriously considering following the suggestion of the Intel Committee and going after Donny Jr, Jered, Clovis, Bannon and Price

factchecker66

Well, I use the USPS every day. Yes, I pay my bills online but I receive medications and many online product orders, magazines, greeting cards, etc. This removal of collection boxes and sorting machines is nothing short of voter suppression by a postmaster general who was appointed to do just this even though he is totally unqualified other than being a huge $$$ supporter of Donald Trump. So he's backing down because of pressure but when will the removed mailboxes and sorting machines be restored. This is a terrible situation when we are in the middle of an uncontrolled COVID-19 pandemic.

mrv52

Can you explain what a sorting machine does?

Can you explain the difference between a blue box and putting your outgoing mail in your home box for your carrier to pickup?

Can you explain why Louis DeJoy is unqualified to run the USPS with his resume?

Can you define what "uncontrolled" means when you referenced covid?

amerigirl

Sorting machines pushing through up to 36,000 pieces of mail per hour, with 1 person operating it. It would obviously be impossible for person to do that by hand. A blue box is the standard mailbox, which would be about the same as having your mailman pick it up if there are no mailboxes in your area. There are also Ballot Drop Boxes that are under surveillance which are safer. Personally the ones from my house will either go inside he post office or in the blue box outside it. Louis DeJoy has no experience with the operations of the post office, nothing in his resume that would apply to running that type of operation, most of his background is in accounting. There were people there that knew the job but DeJoy's structure displaces postal executives with decades of experience, moving some to new positions and others out of leadership roles entirely, including McAdams, Williams and chief commerce and business solutions officer Jacqueline Krage Strako, who previously held the title of executive vice president and chief customer and marketing officer. Right now there is no real control for the covid virus, no vaccine, and little pressure to contain it in many states.

mrv52

Didn't think so.

amerigirl

mrv, don't think what? I can give you sources.

Loudoun4Trump

Democrats really want to cheat to win this year....I got one of those ballot mailers from the leftists for my deceased father.....great work cheaters....the USPS is in need of improvement and the kool aid drinkers thank that it is a problem to try to fix the mess....a USPS system that loses billions a year because how terribly they have been run over the years by the swamp....just wait until you need to get healthcare from a government run system.....yikes, keep up your health through eating right and participate in fitness activities....Lets hpe democrats arent allowed to cheat using the mail in system.....no problems with absentee votes....but mass mail outs to voter rolls that are never accurate -- what a great idea....shees

VOLTON

L4T you need to dig a bit deeper. You'll discover that politicians in the pocket of donors who'd like to see USPS fail have burdened the USPS with pension funding rules that no other business in America has to follow. I know that sort of fact doesn't fit into your fact-free universe but it does actually matter. Another fact, no one has to cheat to find enough votes to defeat Trump a 2nd time at the polls. Lost by 3 million votes last time. How many people have you met who say "I voted for Clinton last time around but I'm going with Trump this time." I haven't run into a single Trump supporter in this election who didn't vote for him in 2016...not a one.

Voltaire

VOLTON—so you must be referring to BOTH Democrats and Republicans, no? A review of the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act shows that it was both parties (Sponsors: Tom Davis (R-VA), cosponsored by John M. McHugh (R-NY), Henry Waxman (D-CA) and Danny K. Davis (D-IL). PAEA compelled the United States Postal Service (USPS) to pay in advance for the health and retirement benefits of all of its employees for at least 50 years, stipulated that the price of postage could not increase faster than the rate of inflation and mandated the USPS to deliver six days of the week. PAEA is a major cause of the financial troubles of the USPS. Concerning the election of President Trump, yes, he lost the popular vote however he did win the Electoral College and thereby was legally elected as President. Why anyone wants to debate that point when it is historical FACT is beyond me. As to your statement about “clinton voters voting for Trump”, that statement is conjecture. Your random sampling of people does not qualify that statement as anything but an assumption. You haven’t talked with people in key states such as Wisconsin, where there are people who were Democrats that voted for Trump. The same argument also applies in other states.

Loudoun4Trump

youa re hanging in the wrong places...I know older more moderate democrats changing to trump...they are sick of the mobs in cities and are generally gun owners/...popular vote doesnt matter, its winning each state....yeah the pensions and benefits of retired USPS workers is why they are billions in the whole each year and it will get worse....need to cut somewhere....I havent met anyone who thinks defunding the police is a good idea, or getting rid of our energy independence, or eliminating the 2nd amendment, or paying higher taxes....haven't met a heard working person who is for any of that....I do know the free riders and those that feed off the swamp love this stuff -- and you get a lot of that in the DC area.....get out in the country and you will see and hear differing opinions....

amerigirl

Now that’s some bull right there. You know more people that are defying the polls by jumping to trump? Let’s see them at the repub convention. Where are all the dems for trump pacs? I doubt you have met anyone that understands what defunding the police actually means, you have shown that you don’t. Do you want to be reliant on fuels that have a limited source? Who said anything about eliminating the 2nd A? Nobody wants that. Taxes, well upness you plan on your children, grandchildren paying your way you need to pay your share because trump in increasing the deficit and debt at n alarming rate. What free riders? Typical conservative reply, nothing is free but things can be acquired without breaking the bank. The swamp has turned into a cesspool with this admin and it is costing the average citizen. Yu don’t have to go anywhere to hear about the people that have had enough all across the nation.

amerigirl

Those aren't ballots, they are applications and if you mail it in you won't get a ballot, arrested maybe. I believe trump had voter fraud investigated with an entire committee and found very little, and guess who cheated? If you think it was just democrats,nope. A judge in Michigan voted using her ballot and her dead husbands, don't you think she should have known better? Good at blaming but never at providing all those who should be blamed

mrv52

The USPS is in the financial mess mainly because of the retirement prefunding issue. Congress already passed a bill eliminating this. Senate will pass it as well. It is a non partisan issue. Trump even agrees with it so he won't veto it.The USPS has defaulted on these payments for years as it stands anyway so it is not the only issue. The management at USPS has been hogtied by the APWU and is most certainly at fault as well. DeJoy is there to fix it. He has the background. He will lay it all out in Congress, if he is asked the correct questions but I fear the dems are just going to try to pin him down on the voter issue, which would be a waste of time.

amerigirl

What background does he have with that type of operation? Does he even have an understanding of how it works? He is just a megadonor accountant.

mrv52

He spent 35 years as a logistics CEO. That's about as experienced as it gets.

amerigirl

mrv, explain. How about all his conflicts of interest. Selling one company to another that contracts with USPS and holding stock? Saying that since he owned Amazon stocks, which competes with USPS, he would sell them but used that money to buy stock options with Amazon?

Squaks11

Trump is an dummy for what he tried to pull but come on Wexton most constituents do not pay their bills via the USPS or stay in touch with loved ones. Wrong century.

Most constituents said they use USPS to pay bills, stay in touch with loved ones, vote, receive prescriptions and conduct business operations, according to Wexton.

CindyLou

SQUAKS11, but they do. Most of the seniors I know don't do their bills on line, send cards out daily to friends and family and get medicine in the mail. What century are we in because seems like we are heading back to the dark ages.

Squaks11

CL - Well my mom and older family relatives living in NJ and NY must be the odd ones since I never receive anything in the mail anymore it is all online and they say how much easier it is now that they can pay their bills right online.

My mom is 76 and her new Hubby is 85 and they are all over Facebook and we have Zoom calls with them both once a week.

Medications are a totally different story.

amerigirl

You are lcky they are still with you. When they pass and you have to do estate filings you will realize how important the post office is.

Voltaire

AG--you can submit estate filings to the Government (Federal/State/local) through either USPS or via private delivery service. When both of my parents passed away this year, that is what I did, as required by applicable law/regulation.

jbsets

My mom is 80. My stepdad is 85. My dad is 84. My stepmom is 83. They all have computers but they only use them for email, shopping, and some games. NONE pay bills online. My grandmother turns 101 today (Aug 20), still lives on her own, reecives and pays her own bills, and has never used a computer.

amerigirl

Volt, if you want a private delivery service the go for it. Even small discrepancies can be remedied online with your auditor once your auditor is assigned. What you did was not an audit, that is not filed until a year after the death and inventory has been submitted. These forms are with the commissioner of the county the decedent lived in through by the fiduciary. That person is responsible for also sending a copy by “first class mail” to every person entitled to a copy pursuant to Virginia Code 64.2-1303, you have to file a “Certificate of Mailing” form CC-1680. There are other forms that also need to be signed and notarized then returned to the fiduciary for filing with the audit. If those people live all over the country why would they pay to have these form delivered by a private company?

Voltaire

AG—Fair point. The point that I was making was that you can submit estate documentation to the Government through other avenues besides USPS. In the case of my parents, I didn’t have to go through an audit. It appears, based on your description, that that is a process that I am glad that I didn’t have to go through.…

amerigirl

Volt, be very glad you have not had to go through an audit, it is a yearly thing and every cent, every receipt must be accounted for. The best thing to do is to liquidate all assets before an audit is due. Yes, you can submit some documents through avenues besides USPS, but there are some that currently under law, through have to go USPS.

amerigirl

They don't seem to realize how many legal documents have to go through registered mail either.

mrv52

Docusign is rapidly taking over.

jbsets

MRV52: True but again you need a computer and if you have ever done business with any govt agency (not personal business), those agencies won't take docusign or a scanned document. Their only concession to avoid using snail mail is a fax.

amerigirl

jb and at times a fax won't even work, many government agencies require an original signature.

amerigirl

MRV you cannot docusign something that needs to be notarized. There are forms that actually say you MUST use USPS.

mrv52

The amount of these mail pieces is negligible in the overall picture.

amerigirl

mrv, those pieces are not negligible in the overall picture. maybe if you are not the one that is placed with a government mandated deadline. Not everyone has internet access either. What about them? What about getting prescriptions? Pension checks? Social security checks for people who don’t use computers? What about people who loose power for a week or so at a time? I know people on Long Island that went over a week just this month from the hurricane that went through. They still got their mail.

Voltaire

Squaks11--you are making an unsubstantiated assumption. There is no evidence to support that statement. I pay my bills via USPS and I am certain that there are lots of people, particularly rural communities, who use USPS for mail services too.

jbsets

Not true for a huge part of the elderly population. I couldn't find my check book if I needed it, but my parents have to know exactly where theirs is because they use it to pay their bills.

VOLTON

Let's hope the next bright idea our stable genius comes up with won't be as bad as this one was...

jbsets

There is always hope, but each idea seems to be worse than the last.

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